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general election

who will you vote for

  • tories

    Votes: 90 35.0%
  • lib dems

    Votes: 26 10.1%
  • labour

    Votes: 71 27.6%
  • Green

    Votes: 30 11.7%
  • bnp

    Votes: 22 8.6%
  • ukip

    Votes: 7 2.7%
  • will not vote

    Votes: 11 4.3%

  • Total voters
    257






drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,383
Burgess Hill
The question from Bushy was about ministers over the last 12 years who had a public school education , Prescott failed the 11+ and went to a secondary school.

Point taken.

ah,so it has to be eton to count does it ? Leave off mate, there are enough privately educated people in the present cabinet for them to leave the class issue well alone, let alone ministers who have served over the preceeding 12 years, and that's not counting the utter hypocrites like harman , diane abbott et al who have chosen to educate their own children privately.

Are you seriously suggesting that going to Brentwood School (apologies, it wasn't Brentford as per earlier post) is equivalent to going to Eton. Also, the problem is the number of people in the shadow cabinet who went to the same school. I take it you have no problem with the 'Old School Tie' network getting the top jobs rather than on their ability.
 




User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
Point taken.



Are you seriously suggesting that going to Brentwood School (apologies, it wasn't Brentford as per earlier post) is equivalent to going to Eton. Also, the problem is the number of people in the shadow cabinet who went to the same school. I take it you have no problem with the 'Old School Tie' network getting the top jobs rather than on their ability.
the sheer audacity of the last sentence from someone who supports the party that took cronyism to previously unheard of heights is utterly astounding.
 


Tories for a ferking great big majority then, when they are elected Guardboorian readers and Independant (goingbustcositsashitread) can get there lumobackdonkeyjackets on ebay cos me being a capitalist barstard will be nocking em out on there.
 








clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,721
16 for the BNP so far, blimey if we had PR in this country that would give em at least five MPs in the house of thieves, PR bring it on.

Based on the fact it's a poll on NSC chat and the moderators allow it to be a refuge for the clinically insane I doubt that very very much.
 






simonsimon

New member
Dec 31, 2004
692
As of 22.00 the left of centre parties, Labour Libdems and Greens total 119

The selfish ignorant right of centre parties total 107

There is hope for this country yet!
 










MacAttack

New member
Aug 21, 2009
2
As of 22.00 the left of centre parties, Labour Libdems and Greens total 119

The selfish ignorant right of centre parties total 107

There is hope for this country yet!

Will vote Labour only because the Tory (if thats bad enough) is from Creepy Crawley and its a marginal seat. Otherwise it would have been Green
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,383
Burgess Hill
the sheer audacity of the last sentence from someone who supports the party that took cronyism to previously unheard of heights is utterly astounding.

Explain?

Are you suggesting that Tony Blair appointed only his friends to ministerial posts. If that is the case then why were there two factions, the Blairites and Browns crew. Did all the Blairites go to the same school as him? If you are a PM, you are going to try and appoint people who share most of your views. As for Brown, how many ex ministers have stabbed him in the back, eg Blears.

They are all playing a political power game but there is a difference when you select people because they went to the same elite school as yourself.
 


Milton Keynes Seagull

Active member
Sep 28, 2003
775
Milton Keynes
Naturally with UKIP.

Thank god they are still in a minority

You may recall that at the last test of national opinion in June, UKIP won the SECOND largest vote from parties contesting that election. They went up 1 seat to 13 while of course the remarkable advance of the BNP despite massive opposition is well recorded, going from 843,000 votes in 2004 to 973,000 in 2009 winning two seats.

The far left and other joke parties like NO2EU of course all polled derisory votes.:laugh:
 


User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
Explain?

Are you suggesting that Tony Blair appointed only his friends to ministerial posts. If that is the case then why were there two factions, the Blairites and Browns crew. Did all the Blairites go to the same school as him? If you are a PM, you are going to try and appoint people who share most of your views. As for Brown, how many ex ministers have stabbed him in the back, eg Blears.

They are all playing a political power game but there is a difference when you select people because they went to the same elite school as yourself.
how many shadow ministers , out of a cabinet of 32 went to eton ? and who are they ?
 






In some respects it doesn't really matter what private school politicians went to.

Doesn't the Labour Party now have more Barristers than the Tories and and this total is also more than being Trade Union members.

We do have an establishment in this country of families doing the rounds of Eton, or Roedean, Oxford, Cambridge etc.

As a nation we either have to try to break this clique up, as they attempted to in Sweden with the election of the Social Democrats or, you accept it and I suggest the the more British approach and invest in public education, so inner city schools are as good as middle England schools. And these schools are as good as the private system.

We need smaller school classes and better and more teachers, it can be done if we want it.
 


User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
In some respects it doesn't really matter what private school politicians went to.

Doesn't the Labour Party now have more Barristers than the Tories and and this total is also more than being Trade Union members.

We do have an establishment in this country of families doing the rounds of Eton, or Roedean, Oxford, Cambridge etc.

As a nation we either have to try to break this clique up, as they attempted to in Sweden with the election of the Social Democrats or, you accept it and I suggest the the more British approach and invest in public education, so inner city schools are as good as middle England schools. And these schools are as good as the private system.

We need smaller school classes and better and more teachers, it can be done if we want it.
i'll ask you then , since you brought it up, how many eton educated "toffs" are there in the 32 person shadow cabinet ?
 


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