EDL in Sheffield

[daveinprague]

your words.. NOBODY WANTS ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS...why then are your lot quick to oppose us but don't ever oppose them ??

I oppose Islamic extremism...So do, pretty much everybody.....I dont understand your point..??
How would you like that 'protest' to take place...? ...placards with 'no more 911'....'no more 77'?

The reason your marches are opposed, and you know why, so why we have to go through this again, and again, is pretty bizarre....
YOUR GROUP IS FULL OF RACISTS AND NAZIS...ALWAYS HAS BEEN....ALWAYS WILL BE.

 

[daveinprague]

Yes, you were quite an agitator on the Argus blogs forums weren't you. You loved stirring it up on the MFE marches especially.

Not sure if thats an answer to the question 'Have MFE apologised to the Brighton scouts for forcing them to cancel their TRADITIONAL parade...
?

 

[daveinprague]

don't pin the blame on us, your anti English lot started the violence by attacking inocent familys with smoke bombs bottles etc etc, not us! we haven't used any aggression yet..remember we were run out of town.
& George whoever he is is a ****, poor miss guided fool who cant see no further than his nose. if anyone is putting his scouts at risk there is enough proof out there to suggest it is the workings of the anti English..absolutley disgracefull behaviour.
what was ment as a peacefull celebration of our patron saint has unfortunatley turned VERY VERY UGLY INDEED..and all thanks to the thousands of anti English.

Somebody is a 'what'? Misguided fool for complaining that the TRADITIONAL Scouts parade was forced to be cancelled?

 

[daveinprague]

on every march apart from the very first one we have received untold abuse more or less from start to finish, the anti English were tormenting us all the way.. as if they wanted us to react, we done well to hold ourselves back tbh considering the amount of objects thrown at us & threats and abuse we were receiving. the police even admitted that themselves.
the police even though they aren't supposed to take sides had made it well clear from the talks that they had afterwards whos side they will be taking the next time around ..and it definatley aint going to be the anti English. they told us they will toughen up their act a lot more by making more arrests & not holding back. they also said behaviour like that is unacceptable anywhere nevermind brighton. they seemed to give us nothing other than praise for our efforts & behaviour. we told familys to stay well away after the little girl got struck on the head.
its a shame how it has turned out as it was ment as a family event, but the anti English have put pay to that.
have you noticed the anti English never take to the streets and oppose extremist muslims when they do mass demos up and down the country.. but us they do?? it just goes to prove whos side they are taking in all of this and it certainly aint the indigenous english. ****ING TURNCOAT SNAKES THE LOT OF EM. I DETEST THEM EVEN MORE THAN THE EXTREMIST MUSLIMS.

Nobody bothered with you in 2008...however, there are reports of racial abuse being directed at bystanders.
Nobody bothered with you in 2009 either...
UAF mobilised in 2010 when it became clear that the MFE was a front for the EDL, and other far right groups.....

as you know.

 

[daveinprague]

Any POLICE, MEDIA or MEDICAL reports surfaced regarding the 9year old girl being injured yet.......other than the assertion in EDL/MFE pages?

 

[daveinprague]

Oh, and Brighton fella.... being Anti Racist, and Anti Fascist, is not Anti English...its Anti Racist, and Anti Fascist...

The British far right, do NOT represent England, or English ideals.

 

[brighton fella]

don't pin the blame on us, your anti English lot started the violence by attacking inocent familys with smoke bombs bottles etc etc, not us! we haven't used any aggression yet..remember we were run out of town.
& George whoever he is is a ****, poor miss guided fool who cant see no further than his nose. if anyone is putting his scouts at risk there is enough proof out there to suggest it is the workings of the anti English..absolutley disgracefull behaviour.
what was ment as a peacefull celebration of our patron saint has unfortunatley turned VERY VERY UGLY INDEED..and all thanks to the thousands of anti English.

deveinisolation, why us apologise to the scouts as the answer who should be doing all of the apologising is ABOVE.
ive noticed with you when you aint got an answer for anything you resort to calling ones name out, you are clearly rattled sunshine.
and you still haven't answered my question. WHY DO YOU ONLY TURN OUT IN MASS TO OPPOSE US BUT YOU DONT WHEN THE MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE ABOUT DOING THEIR DEMOS?? if you say you hate them aswell then surely its a valid enough question to ask.
again your quick enough to chant the words loud & clear "racist edl off our streets" yet theres absolutley nothing coming from your direction saying the words "MUSLIM BOMBERS OFF OUR STREETS" never once have your lot of spineless mugs opposed them..come on whys that then dave? come on admit it for once the real reason why you don't. if your ashamed to say it I will for you..ITS BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE. which comes back to why your lot are justifiably known as THE TRAITOR WITHIN.

 

[brighton fella]

Oh, and Brighton fella.... being Anti Racist, and Anti Fascist, is not Anti English...its Anti Racist, and Anti Fascist...

The British far right, do NOT represent England, or English ideals.

your lot support English values and you represent the true england that's a joke when its commonly known your lot despise the royalists, you made that clear when you attacked prince Charles inside his car you loon.

 

[daveinprague]

deveinisolation, why us apologise to the scouts as the answer who should be doing all of the apologising is ABOVE.
ive noticed with you when you aint got an answer for anything you resort to calling ones name out, you are clearly rattled sunshine.
and you still haven't answered my question. WHY DO YOU ONLY TURN OUT IN MASS TO OPPOSE US BUT YOU DONT WHEN THE MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE ABOUT DOING THEIR DEMOS?? if you say you hate them aswell then surely its a valid enough question to ask.
again your quick enough to chant the words loud & clear "racist edl off our streets" yet theres absolutley nothing coming from your direction saying the words "MUSLIM BOMBERS OFF OUR STREETS" never once have your lot of spineless mugs opposed them..come on whys that then dave? come on admit it for once the real reason why you don't. if your ashamed to say it I will for you..ITS BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE. which comes back to why your lot are justifiably known as THE TRAITOR WITHIN.

Im certainly not 'rattled' by you or anyone else....if you care to check...my name calling is RESPONSE....to name calling....

HAS THE MFE apologised to the Brighton Scout Movement for forcing them to cancel their TRADITIONAL parade? Yes, or No, its a simple enough question.


I have answered your question incidentally.... where do you want people who are already against Militant Islamists to actually demonstrate, and against what?
Demonstrate against something that most of Britain is against?
When was the last Islamic Extremist demo? Have there been any in Brighton? Sussex?
Muslim bombers off our streets?..and , 'allah is a paedo'...the silliest MFE/EDL chant of course, proving
that most of them are as thick as pigshit...why do you people chant about our Christian God being a paedophile?
Do you really think thatll do it? haha.....


How did you personally get on when demonstrating against the last Islamic Extremist demo? Im guessing you must have been there,
otherwise, berating others for not being there makes you look a little ludicrous.

 

[daveinprague]

your lot support English values and you represent the true england that's a joke when its commonly known your lot despise the royalists, you made that clear when you attacked prince Charles inside his car you loon.

Opposing Islamic extremists, is probably best left to the Police, and the British Security Services, im not entirely sure
that middle aged racists, and far right extremists, with criminal records for violence is very productive...
Do you feel that football hooliganism style street movements, is politically, a good idea?

My lot?...
Im with no political group whatsoever...?... so, they are not my 'lot'....
As for Republicanism in the UK...Not sure what thats got to do with anything... Was Cromwell 'anti English'?

Have you come up with ANY evidence regarding the 9 year old, taken on a potentially violent, confrontational demonstration by irresponsible parents yet?
Otherwise, your point looks a bit silly, and rather theatrical, yet you keep on mentioning the event AS THOUGH IT WAS TRUE....but provide absolutely
NO EVIDENCE of it....
Be a 'patriot', and tell the truth.



Traitors within...yeah, read about 5th columnists.... they came from the ...er... right...

 

[brighton fella]

Opposing Islamic extremists, is probably best left to the Police, and the British Security Services, im not entirely sure
that middle aged racists, and far right extremists, with criminal records for violence is very productive...
Do you feel that football hooliganism style street movements, is politically, a good idea?

My lot?...
Im with no political group whatsoever...?... so, they are not my 'lot'....
As for Republicanism in the UK...Not sure what thats got to do with anything... Was Cromwell 'anti English'?

Have you come up with ANY evidence regarding the 9 year old, taken on a potentially violent, confrontational demonstration by irresponsible parents yet?
Otherwise, your point looks a bit silly, and rather theatrical, yet you keep on mentioning the event AS THOUGH IT WAS TRUE....but provide absolutely
NO EVIDENCE of it....
Be a 'patriot', and tell the truth.



Traitors within...yeah, read about 5th columnists.... they came from the ...er... right...

not once have you used the word racist of fascist for a change in this post. its unusual because you have an obsession with the word.
you and your clan keep banging on about racism.. the big bad ugly neo nazi's infact im proud to be known a racist, a racist who is supporting his countrys traditional values & I doesent want to see any of them die. bring it on fella you can call me a racist as much as you ****ing well like because im proud of it.

there are plenty of muslim extremist demos up & down the country, take your obsession away from us for a change and consentrate your anger towards them WHO ARE DOING THE KILLINGS not us.

oh & Cromwell was a turncoat the same as your lot are

 

[daveinprague]

Its not an obsession about racists, and nazis in the MFE/EDL Brighton Fella...its factual...and you know that.

You forgot to mention which Extreme Islamic demos you have attended, as im not sure 'marching' in Brighton
is reaching your intended target.

and meant to ask...what does chanting 'allah is a paedo' got to do with St Georges day with regards to the MFE in Brighton?

Cromwell, was a bit of a fundamental Christian...your people ;-P

Any news on the 9 yr old girl yet? ;-D

 

[brighton fella]

Its not an obsession about racists, and nazis in the MFE/EDL Brighton Fella...its factual...and you know that.

You forgot to mention which Extreme Islamic demos you have attended, as im not sure 'marching' in Brighton
is reaching your intended target.

and meant to ask...what does chanting 'allah is a paedo' got to do with St Georges day with regards to the MFE in Brighton?

Cromwell, was a bit of a fundamental Christian...your people ;-P

Any news on the 9 yr old girl yet? ;-D

in my books any **** is a turncoat who turns his back on queen & country.. something your lot have a habbit of doing.
been to plenty of extremist islamic demos thanks, mainly in London where we see the snakes burning the stgeorge flag, maybe that is acceptable in your eyes but in mine it definatley aint.
& reguarding the stgeorges day march the few wankers who were caught chanting allah is a pedo were dealt with and told to **** off as we were celebrating stgeorges day.
and you keep on about this 9 year old girl as if you love the fact that she was hit by a flying bottle, again sums you lot up for what you actually are..a ****ing bunch of dispicible ********s.
have you ever thought to yourself the media didnt highlight her shocking ordeal simply due to the fact that they have the same deluded & twisted views as yourselves.
and by the way dave whenever the anthem was being played whilst you served in the RAF & RN what did you do..make yourself scarse

 

[brighton fella]

and you still haven't answered my question why you don't come out in force and oppose muslim fundamentalists whilst they are doing their demos??

 

[Footsoldier]

If you're an Asian Muslim then you can do what you want with little girls. Wonder what happen If I married a 14 year old and shagged her?

Girl, 14, forced to marry man, 24.

A 14-year-old girl from a Muslim family became pregnant after being taken to Pakistan by her father and forced to marry a man of about 24 in “harrowing” circumstances, a High Court judge has said.

The girl said a gun was produced and she had been subjected to violence, said Mr Justice Holman.

Two weeks after the ceremony, the marriage was consummated – following further “threats” – and the girl became pregnant, he added.

The teenager returned to England and her baby was born.

Detail has emerged in a written ruling following a hearing in the Family Division of the High Court in Birmingham.

Mr Justice Holman said a local authority began care proceedings in relation to the girl and her baby.

Local authority officials wanted a “declaration of non-recognition” of the marriage, but Mr Justice Holman decided the girl would have to initiate proceedings to have the marriage nullified.

“The girl has given an account of the circumstances surrounding that marriage which are, frankly, harrowing,” said the judge.

“On her account … this was a grave example of a marriage which was forced under considerable duress, involving at one stage the production of a gun and physical violence upon her.”

He added: “The marriage was consummated about two weeks later after further threats to her if she did not permit her husband, who was then aged about 24, to have sexual intercourse with her. As a result, while still aged 14, she became pregnant.”

Mr Justice Holman said the girl’s parents were Muslim and had emigrated from Pakistan to England. He said the girl’s father became a UK citizen more than 30 years ago.

The girl was not identified.

Barrister Clare Renton, who specialises in family law and is a commissioner with the National Commission on Forced Marriages, said later: “Not only is a 14-year-old incapable of giving consent to marriage, the girl in this case was also subjected to violence.

“Fear of exclusion from the family and community is so great for many that refusal of an arranged marriage is not an option. The current proposal to criminalise forced marriage is welcomed by most of the non-government organisations and charities in the field.”

 

[Footsoldier]

The Islamic Republic Of Pakistan is one sick twisted place as this gang rape in Lahore of a 5-year-old girl last week shows. The vile scum responsible repeatedly raped the poor child,her almost killing her before dumping the girl outside the hospital. Those Muslims responsible are undoubtedly the filth of Islam, the lowest of the low. I struggle to get my head round the disgusting mentality of the Pakistani males and what dark thoughts must go through their minds. Pakistan exports 100s of Muslim males of this mentality to the UK on a daily basis which the left embrace with open arms claiming multiculturalism is good for us.

It will probably be too much to ask that the incompetent Pakistani police in a lawless backwards land capture the animals who raped her and string them up by the neck, Probably as much chance of them turning up in Bradford, Bolton or Tower Hamlets in the back of a lorry as there is that happening.

Human rights groups monitoring Pakistan report that in Lahore alone there has been 32 gang rapes reported to police so far in 2013. (how many in the UK by Pakistani males? Hundreds) They also report also that this year 44 women have been victims of acid attacks which 7 died as a result of. At least 44 have been set on fire of which 11 died of their injuries. Evil inbred women haters who will justify their disgusting actions by the barbaric Islam.

 

[brighton fella]

If you're an Asian Muslim then you can do what you want with little girls. Wonder what happen If I married a 14 year old and shagged her?

Girl, 14, forced to marry man, 24.

A 14-year-old girl from a Muslim family became pregnant after being taken to Pakistan by her father and forced to marry a man of about 24 in “harrowing” circumstances, a High Court judge has said.

The girl said a gun was produced and she had been subjected to violence, said Mr Justice Holman.

Two weeks after the ceremony, the marriage was consummated – following further “threats” – and the girl became pregnant, he added.

The teenager returned to England and her baby was born.

Detail has emerged in a written ruling following a hearing in the Family Division of the High Court in Birmingham.

Mr Justice Holman said a local authority began care proceedings in relation to the girl and her baby.

Local authority officials wanted a “declaration of non-recognition” of the marriage, but Mr Justice Holman decided the girl would have to initiate proceedings to have the marriage nullified.

“The girl has given an account of the circumstances surrounding that marriage which are, frankly, harrowing,” said the judge.

“On her account … this was a grave example of a marriage which was forced under considerable duress, involving at one stage the production of a gun and physical violence upon her.”

He added: “The marriage was consummated about two weeks later after further threats to her if she did not permit her husband, who was then aged about 24, to have sexual intercourse with her. As a result, while still aged 14, she became pregnant.”

Mr Justice Holman said the girl’s parents were Muslim and had emigrated from Pakistan to England. He said the girl’s father became a UK citizen more than 30 years ago.

The girl was not identified.

Barrister Clare Renton, who specialises in family law and is a commissioner with the National Commission on Forced Marriages, said later: “Not only is a 14-year-old incapable of giving consent to marriage, the girl in this case was also subjected to violence.

“Fear of exclusion from the family and community is so great for many that refusal of an arranged marriage is not an option. The current proposal to criminalise forced marriage is welcomed by most of the non-government organisations and charities in the field.”

but dave still continues to hate us more so than them

 

[brighton fella]

The Islamic Republic Of Pakistan is one sick twisted place as this gang rape in Lahore of a 5-year-old girl last week shows. The vile scum responsible repeatedly raped the poor child,her almost killing her before dumping the girl outside the hospital. Those Muslims responsible are undoubtedly the filth of Islam, the lowest of the low. I struggle to get my head round the disgusting mentality of the Pakistani males and what dark thoughts must go through their minds. Pakistan exports 100s of Muslim males of this mentality to the UK on a daily basis which the left embrace with open arms claiming multiculturalism is good for us.

It will probably be too much to ask that the incompetent Pakistani police in a lawless backwards land capture the animals who raped her and string them up by the neck, Probably as much chance of them turning up in Bradford, Bolton or Tower Hamlets in the back of a lorry as there is that happening.

Human rights groups monitoring Pakistan report that in Lahore alone there has been 32 gang rapes reported to police so far in 2013. (how many in the UK by Pakistani males? Hundreds) They also report also that this year 44 women have been victims of acid attacks which 7 died as a result of. At least 44 have been set on fire of which 11 died of their injuries. Evil inbred women haters who will justify their disgusting actions by the barbaric Islam.

they are nothing but filthy scum yet as you say the left embrace them with open arms, daves lot.

 

[Footsoldier]

Lucy was kidnapped, gang raped - and then cruelly betrayed by the British justice system. They will be out and carry on with their dirty deeds and won't be deported.

The police was scared of upsetting the Muslim community.

# In 2011, Lucy Walsh was abducted by three men after a night out.

# They raped her repeatedly, laughing when she cried out.

#Two were convicted and sentenced; police are looking for the third attacker.

# But the two successfully appealed and were given less prison time.

# And one of them was granted British citizenship while in jail.

# Fearful for her safety with an attacker still at large, Lucy has fled to Canada.

Lucy.



Lucy Walsh woke up in a dimly lit, grubby room she didn't recognise. She quickly realised, to her horror, that she was naked, and that she was not alone.

A man was on top of her, pinning her to the floor, while another raped her. There were others there, too, talking in a foreign language, and laughing when she screamed in terror and pain. The 24-year-old was subjected to a horrific two-hour attack, as the men took it in turns to rape her.

It's a story that will strike horror into the hearts of parents and young women everywhere: a young local government officer whose only 'crime' was to find herself momentarily alone in a town centre in the early hours.


But the repercussions for Lucy went far beyond the physical injuries she sustained that night. It would destroy her faith in her country and its legal system, which she'd always trusted to protect her, but which seemed to her to favour the rights of her attackers above hers.

Her ordeal was described by a judge as 'among the worst to have come before this court in recent years' - yet in a sick irony, one of her attackers was granted British citizenship as he awaited trial.

It's probably not surprising to hear that Lucy has moved almost 4,000 miles away to Canada, and says: 'I don't know if I can ever come back to Britain.'

That evening, in June 2011, she'd enjoyed a fun night with friends at a club in Preston, Lancashire. When she decided to call it a night, and walked alone the short distance to a taxi rank outside, no one was concerned. It was something Lucy, and thousands of young women, do without thinking every weekend.

'The town was well-lit and lots of people were milling around, so I felt safe,' she says.

Lucy's confidence was tragically misplaced, however, since two Kurdish men - Rezgar Nouri, 27, and Mohammed Ibrahim, 23 (a third - Araz Latif Najmaden, 21 - is still wanted in connection with the attack) had seen her in the nightclub and followed her out, and were caught by the club's CCTV cameras.







What happened next is a blur. Though there is no evidence that Lucy was drugged, all she remembers is waking up, terrified, and being raped.

'I kept blacking out, falling in and out of consciousness. The men weren't speaking English, and they just laughed at me when I cried out.

'Another came in then and dragged me roughly by my wrists into another room. I thanked him, thinking in my confusion that he was rescuing me, but he just laughed and then raped me, too.

'It was surreal, and I was convinced I was going to die. I kept thinking of my parents, my brother and sister, and wondered how they would cope.'

Eventually one of the men threw Lucy into a bathroom where, bizarrely, she found her clothes neatly folded with her shoes placed on top of them.

'I was shaking terribly but I pulled them on, then the man called Nouri yanked my hair, pulled me down some stairs and threw me out onto the street.'

Desperate to get help and disorientated, Lucy realised she must have left her phone in the room where she had been raped.

'I can't explain why I went back upstairs to find my phone,' she admits. But, in her confusion and distress, she did. The door was unlocked and she crept in, spotting her phone in the bed sheets, but as she went to pick it up, Nouri grabbed her and raped her again, before shoving her back out on the street.

When I tried to stand up I was crippled by such agonising pain that I collapsed,' Lucy recalls.

'I recognised where I was - round the corner from the train station - and started crawling towards it on my hands and knees. By then I was hysterical.'

At Preston Royal Hospital, doctors found she had suffered such severe internal injuries that it was four days before they could fully examine her.

'I couldn't stand up, and I was covered from head to foot in bruises,' she says.

It was at 7am that two police officers knocked on the door of the five-bedroom farmhouse in the Lancashire countryside where Lucy lived with her parents, Iain and Kay, to break the horrific news about their daughter.

Kay, 50, a company director, recalls: 'I remember standing there in my dressing gown as one of the officers explained that Lucy had been sexually assaulted.

'When he said she was in hospital, I felt sick. I knew something terribly serious had happened.'

Businessman Iain, also 50, stayed at home with the police, while Kay drove to the hospital.

'To see Lucy curled up in pain, and shuffling along like a 90-year-old woman, was heartbreaking,' Kay recalls.


'It was all the more shocking because I'd never had any worries about Lucy. She's a sensible girl.'

Lucy adds: 'I wept when Mum arrived. I felt so humiliated and ashamed of myself, as though I'd let my parents down.

'The doctor handed me some tablets - the morning-after pill, and medication to prevent HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.'

When CCTV footage led to the arrest of Nouri and Ibrahim, Lucy and her family had every right to expect that justice would be done.

To begin with, it felt as if it had. At first, Nouri claimed never to have seen Lucy, and Ibrahim said she had consented to sex. But faced with overwhelming CCTV and forensic evidence, both men pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court in November 2011 to two counts of rape, and were given indeterminate sentences. Judge Anthony Russell said: 'This was a sustained attack and was particularly degrading, because throughout it the people perpetrating the offences were laughing.'

The effect on Lucy was devastating. She says: 'It was a huge relief that I didn't have to give evidence in court. After the rape, I'd gone to pieces. For a long time I blamed myself.

'While I had been drinking, I was more than capable of getting a taxi and certainly didn't pass out through alcohol.

'I'd also been wearing very sensible clothes that night - black trousers and a black top - with no make-up and my glasses on, but I kept thinking it must have been something I'd done.

'I worked as a housing liaison officer and my job involved talking to people in their homes. Afterwards, I couldn't face visiting strangers, so I had to leave.'

Lucy's private life suffered too. Her 18-month relationship with her boyfriend collapsed because she was struggling to cope, and she found herself crying inconsolably for hours on end.

But if Lucy gained any solace from not having to relive her ordeal in court, her feelings were quickly replaced by anger and frustration.

While the police promised not to rest until they'd arrested the third alleged assailant - identified by them as illegal immigrant Araz Latif Najmaden, 21 - he has never been traced.

Kay says: 'The way it seems to us is that the police are so worried about upsetting the local immigrant community that they have done little to track this man down and allowed him to walk free.'

Then in June 2012 Ibrahim and Nouri appealed against their indeterminate sentences, which were changed to 12 years - but they could be freed in half that.

Kay says she is outraged by the appeal judges' decision.

'Those men have never shown a shred of remorse or said sorry for what they did to Lucy. What about her rights?'

Suffering: Lucy's 18-month relationship with her boyfriend collapsed because she was struggling to cope

Suffering: Lucy's 18-month relationship with her boyfriend collapsed because she was struggling to cope

Even more shocking was when they learned that while 23-year-old illegal immigrant Mohammed Ibrahim was in prison awaiting trial for the rape, he had been granted British citizenship - a process that had been started before his arrest.

Ibrahim has since had his citizenship revoked. The family claim this only happened after they put pressure on the authorities - however the Home Office claims that it occurred automatically because he was found guilty.

By then, Lucy was taking antidepressants and sleeping tablets to help her cope, refusing to sleep with a window open even on the hottest of nights because of her fears about security.

She was so panic-stricken that a man suspected of being one of her attackers was still at large that, in January, she decided to leave Britain to try to start a new life overseas.

She moved to live in Ontario, Canada, where she now works as a nanny.

Lucy says: 'I truly believe that had the third man been white, the police would have made more effort to find him.

'To me, it feels as if they didn't want to make waves and upset the immigrant community.'

She adds: 'My whole family has been affected, I've been forced to leave my home country, and I don't know if I can ever have a relationship with a man again.'

Lancashire Police claim they have made 'extensive inquiries' in their efforts to locate Najmaden, who they confirm is wanted in connection with the attack and is also wanted by UK Border Agency.

The Home Office has said that when they have served their sentences, Nouri and Ibrahim will be deported.

But the Walsh family remains sceptical. Kay says: 'Having seen how the immigration system works, we have lost all faith in British justice. Who's to say these men won't claim asylum, saying their lives will be in danger if they go back to their own country, and end up staying here after all?'

Although Kay is in daily contact with Lucy, she believes her daughter won't come home to Britain until she can be assured that all the men who attacked her have left the country.

'I long to have Lucy back here where she belongs,' she says.

 

[Footsoldier]

but dave still continues to hate us more so than them

Or we'll get banned for telling the truth for dare speaking out in the name of community cohesion.