Does it make you racist if..................

[Upper Library]

I bet they do in other countrys shout that at brits,i bet that wouldn't be racist in most countries anyway mmmm.

Have you got actual experience of that or any friends etc.?

 

[NMH]

"I would rather be a paki than be p*l*ce" seems alright - a bit of a backhanded compliment though

 

[daveinprague]

What part of silent MAJORITY passed you by? It's not a minority at all.

I've lived in 5 different countries and never been called a f***ing Englishman or Brit

 

[halbpro]

Most countries tend to dis-like us brits and who could blame them.I,ve seen it many times and im sure many on here have.

I'm not sure what your argument is? Because we get abuse in other countries it's ok for us to abuse others? Or simply that I'm wrong and we do get called "F***ing Brits" in other countries?

 

[brighton bluenose]

Most countries tend to dis-like us brits and who could blame them.I,ve seen it many times and im sure many on here have.

Racist claptrap in itself - as well as being absolute bollocks!!!

 

[weststanduppercheerleader]

Really pisses me off when people say that 'Paki' is racist. It's just like calling us a Brit. It's quite pathetic.

except that a lot of people use it for anyone who is asian

 

[sir albion]

Have you got actual experience of that or any friends etc.?

Yeah its happened numerous times when on the lads holidays,but of cause us brits don't get offended by things like this,its always the other race that tends to take it in an offensive way.

 

[sir albion]

I'm not sure what your argument is? Because we get abuse in other countries it's ok for us to abuse others? Or simply that I'm wrong and we do get called "F***ing Brits" in other countries?

Its not right for anyone to abuse anyone in that way,but generally us brits have a diffrent personallity to many of our foreign counterparts and thats why we don't get offended as much.

 

[Wilko]

Not matter what context a word like ni**er , pa*i is racist...

So what about when a black person says it to another black person. Are they being racist, should they be punished? Just been watching an episode of The Wire where it is used about 30 times.

 

[Durlston]

I got called a white c*nt outside a nightclub by a black geezer in south London for talking to his beautiful Beyonce lookalike girlfriend. If I'd responded by saying something like "f*** off, you rubber-lipped rude boy" I probably would have got slashed with a broken bottle or knife.

 

[sir albion]

Racist claptrap in itself - as well as being absolute bollocks!!!

Why is it bollocks?
Do you think brits are liked in all countries or something,you must be very naive as i can assure you brits are not liked by a large portion of countries.

 

[SK1NT]

So what about when a black person says it to another black person. Are they being racist, should they be punished? Just been watching an episode of The Wire where it is used about 30 times.

I often wondered this... but hearing a phone in debate on LBC talk radio several black people called in with an explanation and said that this was the black people trying to RECLAIM a word that has always generally owned and used derogatorily towards black people...

Several black people also called in and found the word offensive even when called it by a black person due to the negative conotations and shackles of negative use thoughout history of this word...

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

What part of silent MAJORITY passed you by? It's not a minority at all.

I've lived in 5 different countries and never been called a f***ing Englishman or Brit

Limey? Pommy? Rosbifs?

None of those are considered racial slurs, even though they are.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Most countries tend to dis-like us brits and who could blame them.I,ve seen it many times and im sure many on here have.

Thats interesting. I regard myself as pretty well travelled and cannot say i have ever found this to be true. At all. In the sightest.

I wonder why your experience is so different from mine.

 

[Woodchip]

Anyone have Clerks II come into their head at various points in this thread?

"Come to think if it she was kinda racist..."
"It's okay, I'm taking it back"
etc...

 

[sir albion]

Thats interesting. I regard myself as pretty well travelled and cannot say i have ever found this to be true. At all. In the sightest.

I wonder why your experience is so different from mine.

Probably because you are either an old fart or you go to respectable places,must say you,ve done well considering.
What countries are you talking about as certain countries like the far east you won't get many problems,i found the italians to be a right pain,i was getting a tram in a remote part of sardinia and got called a "english cu*t"by the tram guard
Of cause i find that hilarious but doubt they would if it was the otherway round.

And i don't have an atittude problem

 

[Seagull kimchi]

What part of silent MAJORITY passed you by? It's not a minority at all.

I've lived in 5 different countries and never been called a f***ing Englishman or Brit

So true - I've been discriminated against because I'm not a local (ie. charged a fraction more for services etc.) but in 7 years in Asia I've never been blamed or 'called out' derogatorily on the basis of skin colour/heritage.

 

[Gazwag]

Paki isn't in and of itself racist, however it's become racist because the context associated with its use has tended to be a racist one. For example people rarely shout "You f***ing Brit" at me on the street.

Its become a racist term because of its use in race hate crime I guess, where as "Aussie" for example is still in its banter stage I suppose.

If you started a chant at England v Pakistan with the word Paki in it you would probably get arrested, whereas you start the same chant at England v Australia substituting Aussie for Paki into it everbody would join in and have a good laugh.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Really pisses me off when people say that 'Paki' is racist. It's just like calling us a Brit. It's quite pathetic.

It's all about context. No one has used 'Brit' to insult a British person as far as I'm aware, however since those of Asian origin have settled on our shores, 'Paki' has always been a derogatory term used for anyone from Asia. It is inherently racist.

 

[Seagull kimchi]

Slightly surprised and depressed by a few comments on this thread. I know I've been away from Britain for a couple of years - but has it really become this fractured? Are my British Indian, British African, British Jamaican friends any less British?