fair enough. it's a hugely emotive subject though this one mate. its important that people don't simply forget - or don't understand - what happened to us, what we went through.
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fair enough. it's a hugely emotive subject though this one mate. its important that people don't simply forget - or don't understand - what happened to us, what we went through.
I think the fact that under the Chairmanship of Archer the ground was sold without a new ground or a groundshare in place says it all. Brighton then announced a ground share deal with Portsmouth, that Portsmouth instantly confirmed had NOT been agread. So we sell the ground, rent it back for about £0.5m for one season and then pay a fortune to play at Gillingham with NO concrete plans for a return to Brighton.
During Archers reign the clause about the money from the sale of a ground having to be reinvested in the club was accidently left out when they rewrote the clubs constitution. An oversight was the official response to that.
Dick Knight made sure the consortium stayed together and took control of the club and as soon as possible the vermin called Bellotti was removed from the club and eventually Archer was paid off for his shares.
I think we sold the ground for about £7m to a company that then sold it on again just a matter of months later for about £20m also highlights how the club was shafted.
Of course I see things through a Brighton fans eyes, but if it wasnt for us the fans and DKs consortium nobody else would have stopped Archer and we would now not have a club to support. I went to every demo I could, did everything I could to help remove Archer, was banned from the Goldstone by Bellotti for my part in the Lincoln pitch invasion. I marched to Mellor after Wigan away, walked out of the home game against Hereford in protest.
Its very hard to be balanced when you are so involved and its easy to take it as an insult when people question if Archer was all that bad and Knight really that much of a saviour.
Rant over....but Archer (and Bellotti) certainly did nothing but harm to our club.
During Archers reign the clause about the money from the sale of a ground having to be reinvested in the club was accidently left out when they rewrote the clubs constitution. An oversight was the official response to that.
Dick Knight made sure the consortium stayed together and took control of the club and as soon as possible the vermin called Bellotti was removed from the club and eventually Archer was paid off for his shares.
I think we sold the ground for about £7m to a company that then sold it on again just a matter of months later for about £20m also highlights how the club was shafted.
Of course I see things through a Brighton fans eyes, but if it wasnt for us the fans and DKs consortium nobody else would have stopped Archer and we would now not have a club to support. I went to every demo I could, did everything I could to help remove Archer, was banned from the Goldstone by Bellotti for my part in the Lincoln pitch invasion. I marched to Mellor after Wigan away, walked out of the home game against Hereford in protest.
Its very hard to be balanced when you are so involved and its easy to take it as an insult when people question if Archer was all that bad and Knight really that much of a saviour.
Rant over....but Archer (and Bellotti) certainly did nothing but harm to our club.
The Large One
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Good stuff, Mr Blobby, but one small point of order.
As I understand it, the deal to groundshare with Portsmouth HAD been made, then Archer came in and unilaterally ripped it up - much to Pompey's chagrin - saying travelling 220 miles for a home game was too far for Brighton fans.
As I understand it, the deal to groundshare with Portsmouth HAD been made, then Archer came in and unilaterally ripped it up - much to Pompey's chagrin - saying travelling 220 miles for a home game was too far for Brighton fans.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it wasn't a clause relating to proceeds from the sale of the ground that was the problem. It was the Articles of Association which had previously stated that in the event of the club folding, any proceeds would go to local youth sports clubs or something similar. It was the removal of that clause that would have allowed Archer to wind the club up and keep the net proceeds, of which there probably wouldn't have been much due to the debts we had. Clubs cannot change the Articles of Association with agreement from the FA hence the reason they had to put it back in.
The Large One
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Correct.
Although I suspect you meant to put in the word 'without' in front of 'agreement' in the last sentence.
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correct.
Bish Bosh
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Portsmouth FC's official response to the ground share issue was that they had had some discussions with Albion but nothing had been agreed.
By the way TLO, although many of us would like Porsmouth to be 110 miles away, the reality is that it's a whole lot nearer than that!
By the way TLO, although many of us would like Porsmouth to be 110 miles away, the reality is that it's a whole lot nearer than that!
The Large One
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True enough, but Archer thought it was 220 miles away.
My point is, his geography was so piss-poor, he thought Portsmouth was near Plymouth.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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Did he really?!
Bish Bosh
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Pompey definitely hadn't agreed anything though.
This whole Fratton Park thing reminds me of when Archer and Bellotti turned up unanounced at Crawley's ground to find thier Chairman John Maggs mowing the pitch. The diabolical duo seemed to think they could agree a groundshare there and then. By this time they were desparate to be seen to be doing something-hence the Pompey/Crawley episodes- while the real financial shenannigans wre going on quietly beneath the surface.
Rot in Hell the pair of them...and never forget Greg Stanley. Archer administered the Stanley trust money which had to be a key point in explaining what went on.
Which would make it a darn sight more than a 220-mile round trip were that to be the case...!!! I understand your point...
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Really?! No way?!!! REALLY?! Oh wow! Pick me, me, me! I don't want to be disappointed, not now not EVER! OH god I hope I'm not too late..! PM sent. Please read mine first. Pretty please. Oh let it be MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Jam The Man
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LOL! For some reason I can hear Dudley Moore saying that!
Storer68
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Liberty Stadium, Swansea I think
Storer68
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except, if we belive what has been said, it was the Blooms that insisted that the trigger was pulled on Wilkins and Adams (Chapman went of his own accord, and Wilkins was offered a post which he turned down).
Storer68
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and as I understood it, they already had that agreement as they had called a board meeting to which several directors (John Campbell I think being the main one) were unable to attend. But they had enough votes for aboard meeting to be properly constituted, and the rest as they say, is his story
Storer68
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The odds on a biggish club going bust are very slim,yes maidstone etc but they are small clubs.There was zero chance we was ever going to go bust its all a myth of ifs and but's.
Look how many clubs of a reasonable stature have gone bust,yes a big fat ZERO in over 100 years.
I think we can agree that in footballing terms Wimbledon were bigger than us -
FA Cup winners and longer spent in the top flight of English football (14 season, as against 4, founder members of the Premier League) than BHA (FA Cup finalists, reigning Third Division South Champions and merely 5% of their existance spent in the top flight)