Institutionally racist? Perhaps not. Are there a higher proportion of racists in UKIP than in LibLabCon? Definitely.
Above all they're a joke party and will, much to my amusement, take votes off the Tory party. They could be worse.
Institutionally racist? Perhaps not. Are there a higher proportion of racists in UKIP than in LibLabCon? Definitely.
Above all they're a joke party and will, much to my amusement, take votes off the Tory party. They could be worse.
Above all they're a joke party and will, much to my amusement, take votes off the Tory party. They could be worse.
I read about that this morning. Funny.
What a fcking hypocrite.
Why don't UKIP and all the other right of centre parties just cut to the chase, and admit that when they say 'foreigners' they actually mean 'some TYPES of foreigners'.
"People with different colour skin"?
Your wrong.
Institutionally racist? Perhaps not. Are there a higher proportion of racists in UKIP than in LibLabCon? Definitely.
That's a large number. But figures currently show immigrants are putting more into the system than they are taking out. How many of those 182,000 are front line NHS staff for example?
I get your point about where will they live, but stopping migration isn't dealing with the cause of the problem which is, as I've stated before, fueled by cheap bank loans and 5% deposit schemes. That's what needs addressing. The average house price is well out of sync to the salary/affordability of the average young person and that's not the fault of immigrants - many of whom come here and contribute to our society and economy.
The housing crisis is slightly misleading I think. Decades ago, people lived with their parents until they could afford to buy (it generally took two people to afford a mortgage so therefore done via marriage or living together) or earned enough money to pay rent. There were less houses because of the war although in the 60s very inferior flats were thrown together as a 'solution'
As people are far more mobile and many more going to university now, there is a greater demand for housing whether rented or bought. Families splitting up are another cause. There are more single people living alone than every before. Immigration is not the main cause.
I find it very worrying when politicians blame immigrants for the wrongs in society where economics are more to blame. That sounds very clumsy but I am not that articulate in expressing what I mean.
That's a large number. But figures currently show immigrants are putting more into the system than they are taking out. How many of those 182,000 are front line NHS staff for example?
Hopefully a fair amount of them are joining the NHS because with 1 in 4 births in this country coming from women not born in the UK, I guess we will need 26% more maternity and associated staff?
http://www.channel4.com/news/uk-sees-most-births-since-1972
Other serious medical conditions are on the rise here too thanks to our hard working new comers with increases to the costs of NHS care required to treat AIDS, Hepatitis B and TB.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)61438-5/fulltext
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/dec/22/hiv-aids-black-african-immigrants-uk
Its reassuring that they are all working so hard that they are putting in much more in than they take out............................
Its reassuring that they are all working so hard that they are putting in much more in than they take out............................
Not exclusively, no. There are some white 'foreigners' they'd keep out too - Romanians / Poles / 'gypsies'.
Is he, though?
Indeed. To deny this is nonsense. We all know it to be true.
If they get in power, withdraw from the EU and enact an anti-EU immigration policy you can rest assured that an anti-immigration policy will swiftly follow, alongside an acceleration of the ongoing decline of Britain and its empire.
I suspect you're probably right but, with the exceptions you point out, their members fail to see that UKIP's policy of targeting EU immigrants doesn't quite fit into such an agenda, and that really what they're after is not anti-EU im(migration), but anti-immigration per se. If they get in power, withdraw from the EU and enact an anti-EU immigration policy you can rest assured that an anti-immigration policy will swiftly follow, alongside an acceleration of the ongoing decline of Britain and its empire.
This.
Once again though, I think you'll find that they would NOT be anti-immigration per se.
Well, actually in their minds they WOULD be - insofar as only certain people would COUNT as 'immigrants'.
Comfortably-off Americans moving here to work, or as a random example, somebody's German wife, living in the UK, wouldn't be 'immigrants', they'd just be 'people who moved here'.
I understand voting UKIP will take votes off the Tories. Labour might get back in because of it, which I don't like the idea of.
If the doubters like myself don't vote for something different how can we ever expect a change. All UKIP voters where either Tory or Labour in the first place anyway. If the main parties still can't see what the problems are, then really they don't deserve our votes.
Agree with this; Farage ia man with charisma and none of the main Party leaders have it. Charlie Kennedy had it (even if it came from the bottle) and so sadly did Bliar.
UKIP will do wel in Southern coastal areas for the wrong reasons, they tre already winning local Council seats around Brighton. Whether that wil be enough to get Labour back in nationally I don't know, but the Tories would bite the bullet and accept a coalition with UKIP if it kept them in power, but minus DC as Leader - that is if he isn't replaced after the Euro elections this May.
Speaking as member of the Conservatives, I don't know of any plans to accept a coalition. I'd assume that's IF they win ANY seats at all in the next election, which I somewhat doubt. The mood within the Conservatives is one that we shouldn't form a coalition. He'd be replaced after the Euro elections? Laughable, Cameron is largely supported within the party. Very few actually have the capability of leading, unless of course, you know something us members don't know. The euro elections will be jumped on by the predominant eurosceptics, UKIP are likely to win seats. But will the gain an increase in the national share of votes? We won't know.
Last county elections Labour gained a lot of councils, but they didn't increase their share of the national vote. It was static, the UKIP vote mainly split the Conservative. Which may prove problematic in the next general election. What is for certain though, is that UKIP standing in Conservative targeted seats would mean they only give Labour or the Libdems the chance to gain or hold the seat.
There was a report recently suggesting the majority of UKIPs defected voter base isn't actually from the Conservatives. When I have time, I'll grab that article. It's an interesting read.
I accept polls are wrong sometimes but the latest ones show Labour on around 37, Tories around 35, UKIP around 15% and Lib Dems under 10%. It will be interesting if that is the result in 2015 as to what horse trading is carried out to form a government.
The only way the Tories can stop the surge in support for UKIP is to get rid of Dodgy Dave and replace him with Boris Johnson. UKIP are not only taking votes away from the Tories they're also making a dent in the Labour and LidDem support too.
UKIP are not only taking votes away from the Tories they're also making a dent in the Labour and LidDem support too.