In the Times...
And it said what ?
In the Times...
Read the Times, I'm in a bar
And I didn't claim anythimg 'explosive, the tweet I posted did.
Its mainly about party, lets say, procedures
Read the Times, I'm in a bar
And I didn't claim anythimg 'explosive, the tweet I posted did.
Its mainly about party, lets say, procedures
Tell you one thing, the cracks are starting to appear in Farage's facade of being a credible leader [video]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27115043[/video]
Beyond him doing something utterly off the wall I can't imagine many stories will now change how people see Farage/UKIP. Those that already support him/UKIP aren't going to change their minds (haven't so far after all) and those that don't won't really care.
Had an interesting discussion with a friends grandparents the other day, who were convinced that UKIP is the only way to save jobs for the 'right people'. It was a little bit painful to listen to if I'm honest.
I don't know, there must be a number of people who are wavering and while you're right that this isn't got to change convinced people's minds, it's going to plant a seed in those with a more rational outlook.
To your second point, I found out recently that my mum buys the daily mail
I don't know, there must be a number of people who are wavering and while you're right that this isn't got to change convinced people's minds, it's going to plant a seed in those with a more rational outlook.
To your second point, I found out recently that my mum buys the daily mail
You can't fix some of the problems in the country without first fixing some of the problems that are causing it.
Here is UKIPs stand on Immigration, this makes sense to me. There is nothig racist, xenophobic about it. It's common sense.
• Regain control of our borders and of immigration - only possible by leaving the EU.
• Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.
• A points-based visa system and time-limited work permits.
• Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK.
Tell you one thing, the cracks are starting to appear in Farage's facade of being a credible leader [video]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27115043[/video]
Is immigration a massive problem though? Is it so big that we should risk losing all the benefits of being part of the EU?
People talk all the time about mass-immigration, and I really don't think it's the problem it's being made out as. The fact is UKIP quote millions but the reality is thousands. Independent studies have also shown that immigrants make this country money - admittedly not much but more than they're costing us. Basically, what I'm saying here is is immigration that big a problem or are immigrants the easiest available scapegoats while we ignore the real problems facing this country i.e the massive housing crisis, backdoor privatization of the NHS and fragile economy.
Is immigration a massive problem though? Is it so big that we should risk losing all the benefits of being part of the EU?
People talk all the time about mass-immigration, and I really don't think it's the problem it's being made out as. The fact is UKIP quote millions but the reality is thousands. Independent studies have also shown that immigrants make this country money - admittedly not much but more than they're costing us. Basically, what I'm saying here is is immigration that big a problem or are immigrants the easiest available scapegoats while we ignore the real problems facing this country i.e the massive housing crisis, backdoor privatization of the NHS and fragile economy.
UKIP quote millions, they are right here. The door is open to millions of people who are members of the EU, we can't control that and this is where the system is wrong. The housing shortage is a mixture of both, a lack of house building, however we wouldn't need to be building on the scales quoted if we hadn't have let so many people here in the first place, and we hadn't let rich foreign investors price people out of the market in places like London. That's created a wave of people having to move out of places like London, which in turn has created pressure in other areas of the country. I'm not scapegoating immigrants but is hasn't helped the situation and I don't see how it is going to make this country any wealthier, richer as we keep being told.
The housing crisis is slightly misleading I think. Decades ago, people lived with their parents until they could afford to buy (it generally took two people to afford a mortgage so therefore done via marriage or living together) or earned enough money to pay rent. There were less houses because of the war although in the 60s very inferior flats were thrown together as a 'solution'
As people are far more mobile and many more going to university now, there is a greater demand for housing whether rented or bought. Families splitting up are another cause. There are more single people living alone than every before. Immigration is not the main cause.
I find it very worrying when politicians blame immigrants for the wrongs in society where economics are more to blame. That sounds very clumsy but I am not that articulate in expressing what I mean.
I don't know, there must be a number of people who are wavering and while you're right that this isn't got to change convinced people's minds, it's going to plant a seed in those with a more rational outlook.
Twenty-odd million was quoted. He may as well have said 485 million! The truth is only about 70,000 actually did come. It's pure hyperbole and undermines the debate. Britain's birthrate increases no doubt swamps that number.
The housing crises isn't caused by immigration. Do you honestly believe that hardworking young families can't afford a house because the immigrants have taken them all? Or because a housing bubble, fueled by cheap bank loans and 5% deposit schemes have pushed the average house price well out of sync to the salary/affordability of the average young person? If you chucked every legal (and illegal) immigrant out of the country right now, there would be more housing, but not enough to significantly reduce it's cost. That's the truth of it.
Surely Immigration is also a part of the housing crisis and NHS ..
70,000 since January that's still far too many people. 70,000 should be a yearly figure. The 70,000 figure does not include the people that have arrived from outside the EU, so once again we could be looking at 250,000 people coming here.