Championship records at Withdean - 3 managers

[Uncle Spielberg]

Hinshelwood Pl 12
Won 1
Drawn 1
Lost 10
Points 4
% points per game = 0.33

Coppell Pl 34
Won 10
Drawn 11
Lost 13
Points 41
% points per game = 1.21

McGhee Pl 88
Won 20
Drawn 26
Lost 42
Points 86
% 0.98

Makes you realise what a fantastic job Coppell did. I gave him stick for th manner of his leaving but it is becoming very clear we lost one of the top 5 managers working in football and a possiblt future England manager imho.

McGhee is good and I want him next season but Coppell is much better, facts are facts.

 

[Da Man Clay]

But he didn't keep us up. Therfore his record means absolutly nothing. I agree that he is certainly one of the best english managers but we still got relegated.

EDIT: I did vote for coppel BTW

 

[Beeercan]

I would say Coppell, i have tremendous respect for the fella.

He did a great job whilst here, installed confidence in players after Hinschelwood's tenure (mayo, oatway, carpenter). He braught in people with quality who helped us in the short term:

Ingimarsson, Sidwell, Rodger, Blackwell, Roberts. As well as brining in people who helped the promotion cause like Leon Knight.

I wish him all the best next season, and if he wants to loan us Dave Kitson for a few months then i'm all for it.

 

[Rich Suvner]

Wouldn't disagree that Coppell's Albion side were better than McGhee's but I think this stat is misleading.

The Withdean factor was much greater in our first season in the Championship than it has been in subsequent seasons. Put simply most teams know what to expect now.

I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of away results by manager though.

 

[e77]

Coppell, although I think he might have had more budget than McGhee.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

But he didn't keep us up. Therfore his record means absolutly nothing. I agree that he is certainly one of the best english managers but we still got relegated.

EDIT: I did vote for coppel BTW

But Coppell was basically doing the 100m after giving the rest of the field a 20 metre start. The relegation was not his fault, no-one could of done a better job at trying to keep us up.

If we'd of had him in charge from the start of that season I firmly believe he would of kept us up and in mid table too.

 

[London Irish]

The stats are not comparable because Coppell wasn't here long enough to have had the problems of rebuilding Adams' team within the very difficult environment of the Championship, the problem that has dogged McGhee this season - most of Coppell's signings were short-term fixes that in the end didn't work.

All that matters is acheivement. McGhee kept us up in the Championship, Coppell got us relegated. That is all that matters at the end of the day.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Hinshelwood got us relegated.

In the last 23 games, the second half of Coppell's only season we got 31 points and were 9th. Coppell changed us from a side with 4 points out of 36 to a side good enough to be play off challengers.

To say Coppell got us relegated is like saying London Irish admires and respects George W Bush,

 

[Caveman]

My only problem is i still hate Coppell.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

To say Coppell got us relegated is like saying London Irish admires and respects George W Bush,

And early season results dont matter.

 

[Safeway]

To say Coppell got us relegated is like saying London Irish admires and respects George W Bush,

It's more like saying Peter Taylor won us the Second Division title in 2002.

 

[Silent Bob]

The stats are not comparable because Coppell wasn't here long enough to have had the problems of rebuilding Adams' team within the very difficult environment of the Championship, the problem that has dogged McGhee this season - most of Coppell's signings were short-term fixes that in the end didn't work.

But Coppell inherited a team devoid of confidence, with glaring holes in the side, and miles adrift at the bottom of the table.
It wasn't time for blooding youngsters, or "ones for the future", it had to be "quick fixes" to get us out of the horrible mess we were in.

All that matters is acheivement. McGhee kept us up in the Championship, Coppell got us relegated. That is all that matters at the end of the day.

But if Coppell hadn't had a 12 game handicap he would've kept us up, we'd have been mid table.
McGhee kept us up once by the skin of our teeth, and has now taken us down.

 

[perth seagull]

McGhee brought youth players into the team like Virgo. This wouldn't have happened under Coppell who relied on short term fixes like Blackwell.

 

[London Irish]

Hinshelwood got us relegated.

In the last 23 games, the second half of Coppell's only season we got 31 points and were 9th. Coppell changed us from a side with 4 points out of 36 to a side good enough to be play off challengers.

To say Coppell got us relegated is like saying London Irish admires and respects George W Bush,

No one disputes that Coppell did an excellent job making up ground very quickly up to February.

But we were then out of the bottom 3!

Is that where we finished?

Contrast that with last season when we fell into the bottom 3 in April. McGhee then regalvanised the team and ensured we stayed up.

It's all about acheivement at the business end of the season Gareth. That's all that counts. McGhee acheived, Coppell for all his fine work didn't.

 

[Safeway]

McGhee brought youth players into the team like Virgo. This wouldn't have happened under Coppell who relied on short term fixes like Blackwell.

Not forgetting Ingarmarsson and Sidwell. Whatever happened to them?

 

[Fourteenth Eye]

dont forget that when coppell did leave he left us top of the table!!!!!

 

[perth seagull]

Not forgetting Ingarmarsson and Sidwell. Whatever happened to them?

They were both loan signings though and we had no chance of getting them permanently.

 

[London Irish]

But if Coppell hadn't had a 12 game handicap he would've kept us up, we'd have been mid table.
McGhee kept us up once by the skin of our teeth, and has now taken us down.

Buts, ifs, should haves, might haves.........all bollix.

We went down - end of story. That's all that counts. Coppell's one season with us, one failure.

Contrast that with McGhee, 3 seasons, two seasons of success, one of failure.

McGhee has achieved far more for this club.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Buts, ifs, should haves, might haves.........all bollix.

We went down - end of story. That's all that counts. Coppell's one season with us, one failure.

Contrast that with McGhee, 3 seasons, two seasons of success, one of failure.

McGhee has achieved far more for this club.

It was half a season in the Championship. Not a whole one. And whilst its an if but or maybe if Coppell was here at the start im sure we would have stayed up comfortably

As for magoo its two and a half seasons. One and a half seasons of success and one of failure.

 

[Silent Bob]

Buts, ifs, should haves, might haves.........all bollix.

We went down - end of story. That's all that counts. Coppell's one season with us, one failure.

Contrast that with McGhee, 3 seasons, two seasons of success, one of failure.

McGhee has achieved far more for this club.

Not if, but, or might have. WOULD have.

What has McGhee achieved exactly? At the end of the season we will be back in the same division we were when he took over.