[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Sheffield United *** Official Match Thread ***

[portslade seagull]

Trossard is poor at the moment and does not warrant a starting place


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As I've said on another thread Trossard has one good game in five and seems better coming off the bench

 

[The Fits]

Wilder...'fans want to see contact'.
WTF?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

As I've said on another thread Trossard has one good game in five and seems better coming off the bench

Yes, but think you’re being generous [emoji2]


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[R. Slicker]

Things are worse than I thought. People are calling for Eddie ****ing Howe

 

[peterward]

Ashworth is the root of the problem IMO

Never trust a consultant . . Leeches!

Ashworth got Lamptey and Lallana, and the Lamptey deal alone will be massively financially beneficial after we get relegated this season!

But whilst none of us know the ins and outs of recruitment team, then end results have generally been piss poor for seasons, a lot of expensive dross, nowhere near the grade on long contracts and for that heads should have rolled. Obvs you get the odd one wrong, we're consistently getting it wrong.

Locadia is absolute toss, Ali J as nice a guy as he is, is out of his depth at this level. Trossard is a pretty boy that blows more cold than hot and often goes missing. Propper is a lightweight and hardly ever scores, Bernado is simply not good enough, Maupay was fairly decent last season but this season looks crap has lost his mojo, his confidence and doesnt look like scoring. Izzy is a decent player but never available, Andone a decent player but a nutter so never available, Macallister looks pretty good but jurys out on if he can cut it with the pace of the PL, so far doesnt look like an inspired singing or threaten first team after 11 months in England. Schellotto was quick but Pony, Suttner waste of time, Gross, was ok as cheap but too slow and ponderous these days and not good enough anymore, Montoya was not good enough, Burn is championship at best, Balogun was not good enough to threaten, Webster is ok but neither is he great or terrible, average unremarkable player, not sure what the reasoning is with Matt Clarke? but doubt his future is here, Tau? who knows outside Belgium. Zequiri too soon, doesnt look like he's going to be the answer for a while

Lamptey, Bissouma great and and good value.... the rest havent really advanced us much at all.......... hundreds of millions in fees and wages and we're not moving forward despite changes of manager and style.

The moneyball system is not working imho, we're trying to be turd polishers hoping to turn Lidl into Waitrose and its just not working.

maybe it was OK in the championship and lord knows Brentford seem to have mastered it at that level, but it aint working at this level and all its uncovered is a load of crap, many of who are taking a massive bite out of the wages bill whilst offering little or nothing.

Surprised Winstanley still has a job with the amount of epic fails, but for whatever reason recruitment is very poor at the club and has been for years.

either top 10 ten is a delusion with this failed moneyball system, or the people running it in recruitment should be binned as they are getting it more often wrong than right.

 

[raymondo]

If you want to get through teams that defend deep you need players running at the back line to draw out defenders or draw fouls in dangerous places. I think I saw Trossard do this once in the final minutes and it looked the most effective attacking we did all game.

Instead we ponderously played it across their back line and hit crosses into a crowded box

And the sad thing is, I think Trossard does have the skills to try this more often - so why doesn't he, I wonder? I don't get. Either it's been coached out of him or his confidence is very low. He was team captain at his Belgian club, but I think he's lost a lot of confidence with us. For me, all the backflicks when in tight situations, rather than looking for a solid pass, is another symptom of loss of confidence - it's a shame, as he has talent. Biss also has the speed, talent to burst forward but he's probably told to keep his position. Frustrating for the fans and no doubt for the players too.

 

[dazzer6666]

Ashworth got Lamptey and Lallana, and the Lamptey deal alone will be massively financially beneficial after we get relegated this season!

But whilst none of us know the ins and outs of recruitment team, then end results have generally been piss poor for seasons, a lot of expensive dross, nowhere near the grade on long contracts and for that heads should have rolled. Obvs you get the odd one wrong, we're consistently getting it wrong.

Locadia is absolute toss, Ali J as nice a guy as he is, is out of his depth at this level. Trossard is a pretty boy that blows more cold than hot and often goes missing. Propper is a lightweight and hardly ever scores, Bernado is simply not good enough, Maupay was fairly decent last season but this season looks crap has lost his mojo, his confidence and doesnt look like scoring. Izzy is a decent player but never available, Andone a decent player but a nutter so never available, Macallister looks pretty good but jurys out on if he can cut it with the pace of the PL, so far doesnt look like an inspired singing or threaten first team after 11 months in England. Schellotto was quick but Pony, Suttner waste of time, Gross, was ok as cheap but too slow and ponderous these days and not good enough anymore, Montoya was not good enough, Burn is championship at best, Balogun was no good enough to threaten, Webster is ok but neither is he great or terrible, average unremarkable player, not sure what the reasoning is with Matt Clarke? but doubt his future is here, Tau? who knows outside Belgium. Zequiri too soon, doesnt look like he's going to be the answer for a while

Lamptey, Bissouma great and value.... the rest havent really advanced us much at all hundreds of millions in fees and wages and we're not moving forward despite changes of manager and style.

The moneyball system is not working imho, we're trying to be turd polishers hoping to turn Lidl into Waitrose and its just not working.

maybe it was OK in the championship and lord kows Brentford seem to have mastered it at that level, but it aint working at this leel and all its uncovered is a load of crap, many of who are taking a massive bite out of the wages bill whilst offering little or nothing.

Surprised Winstanley still has a job with the amount of epic fails, but for whatever reason recruitment is very poor at the club and has been for years.

either top 10 ten is a delusion with this failed moneyball system, or the people running it in recruitment should be binned as they are getting it more often wrong than right.

Lamptey and Bissouma will make the club a £100 million profit when they’re sold. If you’re in investment banking and you’re Ashworth and team, that’s at least a £10 mil bonus. I doubt the PL is much different

 

[peterward]

Lamptey and Bissouma will make the club a £100 million profit when they’re sold. If you’re in investment banking and you’re Ashworth and team, that’s at least a £10 mil bonus. I doubt the PL is much different

I dont disagree, and they both add quality to the team.

Lamptey and Bissouma may cancel out a sizeable chunk of the other dross and their 5 year deals from a financial perspective but those other players are not good enough at this level and no doubt the chunk they take from the budget stops us from being able to go out and get others of quality in.

Josh King? even if we could get him, and the age policy was bent, could we afford him with all the crap we have taking 50kpw wages

 

[zefarelly]

Ashworth got Lamptey and Lallana, and the Lamptey deal alone will be massively financially beneficial after we get relegated this season!

But whilst none of us know the ins and outs of recruitment team, then end results have generally been piss poor for seasons, a lot of expensive dross, nowhere near the grade on long contracts and for that heads should have rolled. Obvs you get the odd one wrong, we're consistently getting it wrong.

Locadia is absolute toss, Ali J as nice a guy as he is, is out of his depth at this level. Trossard is a pretty boy that blows more cold than hot and often goes missing. Propper is a lightweight and hardly ever scores, Bernado is simply not good enough, Maupay was fairly decent last season but this season looks crap has lost his mojo, his confidence and doesnt look like scoring. Izzy is a decent player but never available, Andone a decent player but a nutter so never available, Macallister looks pretty good but jurys out on if he can cut it with the pace of the PL, so far doesnt look like an inspired singing or threaten first team after 11 months in England. Schellotto was quick but Pony, Suttner waste of time, Gross, was ok as cheap but too slow and ponderous these days and not good enough anymore, Montoya was not good enough, Burn is championship at best, Balogun was not good enough to threaten, Webster is ok but neither is he great or terrible, average unremarkable player, not sure what the reasoning is with Matt Clarke? but doubt his future is here, Tau? who knows outside Belgium. Zequiri too soon, doesnt look like he's going to be the answer for a while

Lamptey, Bissouma great and and good value.... the rest havent really advanced us much at all.......... hundreds of millions in fees and wages and we're not moving forward despite changes of manager and style.

The moneyball system is not working imho, we're trying to be turd polishers hoping to turn Lidl into Waitrose and its just not working.

maybe it was OK in the championship and lord knows Brentford seem to have mastered it at that level, but it aint working at this level and all its uncovered is a load of crap, many of who are taking a massive bite out of the wages bill whilst offering little or nothing.

Surprised Winstanley still has a job with the amount of epic fails, but for whatever reason recruitment is very poor at the club and has been for years.

either top 10 ten is a delusion with this failed moneyball system, or the people running it in recruitment should be binned as they are getting it more often wrong than right.

We're on the same page, generally. Locadia was gash. I don't buy that for AJ and Trossard, or Bernard-O for that matter . . . . How can good players all of a sudden be crap?

We have a soft flakey manager with good intentions, but no gumption.

We have some soft flakey players too, but they would come to the fore under a good manager . . . .

 

[The Fits]

Bernardo needs coaching, that's all. Has all the physical attributes. Should get rid now though.

 

[Jim in the West]

Ashworth got Lamptey and Lallana, and the Lamptey deal alone will be massively financially beneficial after we get relegated this season!

But whilst none of us know the ins and outs of recruitment team, then end results have generally been piss poor for seasons, a lot of expensive dross, nowhere near the grade on long contracts and for that heads should have rolled. Obvs you get the odd one wrong, we're consistently getting it wrong.

Locadia is absolute toss, Ali J as nice a guy as he is, is out of his depth at this level. Trossard is a pretty boy that blows more cold than hot and often goes missing. Propper is a lightweight and hardly ever scores, Bernado is simply not good enough, Maupay was fairly decent last season but this season looks crap has lost his mojo, his confidence and doesnt look like scoring. Izzy is a decent player but never available, Andone a decent player but a nutter so never available, Macallister looks pretty good but jurys out on if he can cut it with the pace of the PL, so far doesnt look like an inspired singing or threaten first team after 11 months in England. Schellotto was quick but Pony, Suttner waste of time, Gross, was ok as cheap but too slow and ponderous these days and not good enough anymore, Montoya was not good enough, Burn is championship at best, Balogun was not good enough to threaten, Webster is ok but neither is he great or terrible, average unremarkable player, not sure what the reasoning is with Matt Clarke? but doubt his future is here, Tau? who knows outside Belgium. Zequiri too soon, doesnt look like he's going to be the answer for a while

Lamptey, Bissouma great and and good value.... the rest havent really advanced us much at all.......... hundreds of millions in fees and wages and we're not moving forward despite changes of manager and style.

The moneyball system is not working imho, we're trying to be turd polishers hoping to turn Lidl into Waitrose and its just not working.

maybe it was OK in the championship and lord knows Brentford seem to have mastered it at that level, but it aint working at this level and all its uncovered is a load of crap, many of who are taking a massive bite out of the wages bill whilst offering little or nothing.

Surprised Winstanley still has a job with the amount of epic fails, but for whatever reason recruitment is very poor at the club and has been for years.

either top 10 ten is a delusion with this failed moneyball system, or the people running it in recruitment should be binned as they are getting it more often wrong than right.

I can see where you're coming from, but most of those guys got us to 40 points last season. If you're going to be that critical then there are an awful lot of failures elsewhere in the Premier League.

 

[um bongo molongo]

Ashworth got Lamptey and Lallana, and the Lamptey deal alone will be massively financially beneficial after we get relegated this season!

But whilst none of us know the ins and outs of recruitment team, then end results have generally been piss poor for seasons, a lot of expensive dross, nowhere near the grade on long contracts and for that heads should have rolled. Obvs you get the odd one wrong, we're consistently getting it wrong.

Locadia is absolute toss, Ali J as nice a guy as he is, is out of his depth at this level. Trossard is a pretty boy that blows more cold than hot and often goes missing. Propper is a lightweight and hardly ever scores, Bernado is simply not good enough, Maupay was fairly decent last season but this season looks crap has lost his mojo, his confidence and doesnt look like scoring. Izzy is a decent player but never available, Andone a decent player but a nutter so never available, Macallister looks pretty good but jurys out on if he can cut it with the pace of the PL, so far doesnt look like an inspired singing or threaten first team after 11 months in England. Schellotto was quick but Pony, Suttner waste of time, Gross, was ok as cheap but too slow and ponderous these days and not good enough anymore, Montoya was not good enough, Burn is championship at best, Balogun was not good enough to threaten, Webster is ok but neither is he great or terrible, average unremarkable player, not sure what the reasoning is with Matt Clarke? but doubt his future is here, Tau? who knows outside Belgium. Zequiri too soon, doesnt look like he's going to be the answer for a while

Lamptey, Bissouma great and and good value.... the rest havent really advanced us much at all.......... hundreds of millions in fees and wages and we're not moving forward despite changes of manager and style.

The moneyball system is not working imho, we're trying to be turd polishers hoping to turn Lidl into Waitrose and its just not working.

maybe it was OK in the championship and lord knows Brentford seem to have mastered it at that level, but it aint working at this level and all its uncovered is a load of crap, many of who are taking a massive bite out of the wages bill whilst offering little or nothing.

Surprised Winstanley still has a job with the amount of epic fails, but for whatever reason recruitment is very poor at the club and has been for years.

either top 10 ten is a delusion with this failed moneyball system, or the people running it in recruitment should be binned as they are getting it more often wrong than right.

I think this about right. At its heart I wonder if it’s an issue about how we’re managing the budget. We seem to have capped our highest wage fairly low by premier league standards, and it was rumoured a number of our players had ‘parity with highest earner’ clauses. That seems to have translated in to paying high fees for players from secondary leagues who will come for the wages on offer (Locadia, Ali J). Other clubs seem to pay lower fees but higher wages (Saints being a good example). There’s likely a theory to it, but I think it needs adjusting. Maybe it already has as recruitment has been better recently, from low fees and probably higher wages. But we’re still paying for the Locadia/Ali J/Bernardo recruitment years.

 

[nsclurker]

Really? Went deathly silent at times and you could hear the groaning.

Apart from the first 10 minutes, it was VERY quiet today. The North was noisy for most of the Soton game and dragged the East along with it, but today...

Symptomatic of what we were watching, especially 2nd half