Dover
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Could the phone in be on in a couple of pubs on the way home?
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Baker On Phone-In This Sat.......CONFIRMED
- Thread starter Harty
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Good point Dover. Ive got a bit of a problem there.
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shaolinpunk
[Insert witty title here]
damn it, i'm working till 6 tomorrow 
any chance someone can record and upload it, please?
any chance someone can record and upload it, please?
METALMICKY
Well-known member
- Jan 30, 2004
- 6,537
I might be inclined to ask whether instead of devoting so much time to blocking Falmer, he doesn't address the issue of the A27 death trap road.
The relevance is that virtually every time i travel over from Eastbourne for home games, i witness some idiot driving, usually overtaking, and a dual carriageway is the obvious solution.
Come on Mr Baker focus on something that will save lives rather than obstructing something that will provide a lot of pleasure to many people and the community.
Remember folks if you do get through don't lose the battle by resorting to swearing etc
The relevance is that virtually every time i travel over from Eastbourne for home games, i witness some idiot driving, usually overtaking, and a dual carriageway is the obvious solution.
Come on Mr Baker focus on something that will save lives rather than obstructing something that will provide a lot of pleasure to many people and the community.
Remember folks if you do get through don't lose the battle by resorting to swearing etc
BensGrandad
New member
I am sure that SCR could arrange it that the most knowledgeable people are the ones that are put through first i.e Paul Samrah. Adrian Newhouse, Ed Batsford, Martin (Perry) from Shoreham, etc that could take up a lot of the program and stop Enid from East Preston or Pam from Pevensey who thinks that 'you are a nice man really just misunderstood'.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
- 10,967
BensGrandad said:
Could'nt agree more and we need Harty to keep the pressure on Baker all the way through. There may have been a few bridges built between Harty & DK last week but this week Harty needs to Take it to Baker in a big way! You've got him there Harty now don't waste the oppertunity fella.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The main difficulty about debating the Falmer issue with Baker has always been that he really doesn't know very much about the subject. The widely held view that he has been in some way leading the opposition is quite simply not the case. He didn't follow the progress of the planning application through the Public Inquiries and I doubt if he has read either of the Inspectors' Reports or even Prescott's decision letter.
Despite all the evidence, he still seems to believe that there has to be an alternative site to Falmer (although, when pressed, he has never been able to name it).
He doesn't like the Club - because he believes it is too close to the Labour Council in Brighton and Hove. And he believes that a Labour government is therefore predisposed to say YES to whatever the Club and the Council want - again this shows his ignorance of the planning process which has established that there IS a good case for the stadium at Falmer and that there is no other site.
In terms of his own political success, he has always been heavily dependant upon the votes of supporters of the countryside - my guess is that he has weighed up his options and still judges it to be important to appeal to those people. The fact that Falmer is NOT a countryside location is neither here nor there to him - as long as the countryside lobby says it is, he will want to be seen to be backing them.
All this adds up, in my view, to saying that there is very little point in debating the issue with him. He isn't interested in the facts, he won't change his mind, and he'll simply reiterate the arguments that he has put before - the Club shouldn't have left the Goldstone, Brighton and Hove Council are simply supporting the Club for political reasons, and there must be another site.
I believe he has agreed to appear on the phone in for one simple reason – he thinks it is an opportunity to divide opinion further. In particular, he wants to establish that the fans have reasons not to trust the Board – that’s why he raised that ridiculous “hotel” issue a couple of weeks back. As he said to me, before that story broke, “Did you know that Martin Perry isn’t telling the whole truth?”
No, Norman, it’s YOU who are twisting the story.
Despite all the evidence, he still seems to believe that there has to be an alternative site to Falmer (although, when pressed, he has never been able to name it).
He doesn't like the Club - because he believes it is too close to the Labour Council in Brighton and Hove. And he believes that a Labour government is therefore predisposed to say YES to whatever the Club and the Council want - again this shows his ignorance of the planning process which has established that there IS a good case for the stadium at Falmer and that there is no other site.
In terms of his own political success, he has always been heavily dependant upon the votes of supporters of the countryside - my guess is that he has weighed up his options and still judges it to be important to appeal to those people. The fact that Falmer is NOT a countryside location is neither here nor there to him - as long as the countryside lobby says it is, he will want to be seen to be backing them.
All this adds up, in my view, to saying that there is very little point in debating the issue with him. He isn't interested in the facts, he won't change his mind, and he'll simply reiterate the arguments that he has put before - the Club shouldn't have left the Goldstone, Brighton and Hove Council are simply supporting the Club for political reasons, and there must be another site.
I believe he has agreed to appear on the phone in for one simple reason – he thinks it is an opportunity to divide opinion further. In particular, he wants to establish that the fans have reasons not to trust the Board – that’s why he raised that ridiculous “hotel” issue a couple of weeks back. As he said to me, before that story broke, “Did you know that Martin Perry isn’t telling the whole truth?”
No, Norman, it’s YOU who are twisting the story.
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KNC
Well-known member
Thanks Ed for putting it so clearly. You are absolutely right. There are other agendas in the mind of Baker. But I do hope that you, Paul & Ade give him a kicking tomorrow night.
SussexSpur
New member
Lovely stuff, have keyed the number into my mobile already.
"Soooo, Mr Baker... can we please have your views, once and for all, on the record, about McGhee's treatment of Leon Knight...?"
"Soooo, Mr Baker... can we please have your views, once and for all, on the record, about McGhee's treatment of Leon Knight...?"
BensGrandad
New member
Lord Bracknell said:
He is right we shouldn't have left The Goldstone but I am sure that the people that I mentioned earlier could be forceful enough to make the point that there is nobody connected with the club who had any say in the selling of and moving from The Goldstone. The present board are trying to make the best of a very bad job, that was instigated by amongst others, the previous Liberal Democratic MP for Eastbourne.
We have not got to persuade Baker that he is wrong , because we will never do that, or at least he will not admit it. What we have got to do is win over the majority of listeners to SCR especially those living in Lewes,that way we will be more effective in winning our battle.
ps Just thought is Adrians name Newhouse or is it Newnham, sorry if I got it wrong, but I am sure that he will know who I mean.
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Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Everest said:So you can't phone but can text when driving?
Don't be daft, I was going to txt something on the way back to my car.
Dover
Home at Last.
My mobile isn't working at the mo. Can someone please ask the following question to Mr. Baker.
"Have the Liberal Democrats given you any advice or direction on how they would like you to handle the Falmer situation?"
Many thanks
Paul aka Dover.
"Have the Liberal Democrats given you any advice or direction on how they would like you to handle the Falmer situation?"
Many thanks
Paul aka Dover.
Superseagull
Well-known member
- Jul 8, 2003
- 2,122
Harty. Maybe you could raise the point with Baker that if Falmer was such a major issue to the people of Falmer & Lewes why we have not seen one public protest, demonstration or march from the opponents of Falmer, whilst the pro Falmer lobby have managed to get tens of thousands of people to vote in a referendum, sign petitions, write letters and go on demonstrations in support of the development.
He laughs at us for turning up at the Liberal conference to demonstrate, yet where were his Anti Falmer Nimby Army when it was time to stand up and be counted?
The answer is simple - they would be laughed out of Brighton when only a handful of people turn up showing the real level of support the Nimbys have.
He laughs at us for turning up at the Liberal conference to demonstrate, yet where were his Anti Falmer Nimby Army when it was time to stand up and be counted?
The answer is simple - they would be laughed out of Brighton when only a handful of people turn up showing the real level of support the Nimbys have.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
That's an excellent question, Superseagull. Someone might care to add a supplementary ... why was it that, in just ONE WEEK, over 5,000 residents of Lewes (not just football supporters) signed a petition against their council's appeal to the High Court, when it took you several months to get fewer signatures for your petition against the incinerator at Newhaven?
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Norman Baker suck my lozenge
New member
Harty, ask Baker why he is happy for 50,000 bigots to march through Lewes every November,screaming sectarian violence and hatred,but does not want Me to take My family to watch sport next to the A27?
Thanks.
Aka,Simon Stubbs,RN (retired)
Thanks.
Aka,Simon Stubbs,RN (retired)
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clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
Weezle said:
http://northstandchat.biz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88844
Just in case you missed my thread!
Lord Bracknell said:
DK, MP - legends. Simple
