Jeez you're going for it.
I'd agree with you on one point ... who do we get better?
Saying that, labelling (us) B&HA fans as clueless (as you certainly did) is pretty poor imo
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Are the fans of other clubs as clueless as Brighton fans?
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Jeez you're going for it.
I'd agree with you on one point ... who do we get better?
Saying that, labelling (us) B&HA fans as clueless (as you certainly did) is pretty poor imo
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Have you read the poll options? It's not a particularly serious question is it. I'm not labeling BHA fans as clueless, I'm taking the piss because I find the drivel from some of the posters here frustrating.
Have you read the poll options? It's not a particularly serious question is it. I'm not labeling BHA fans as clueless, I'm taking the piss because I find the drivel from some of the posters here frustrating.
Whatever ... I must have missed your point
Ferguson is a good manager, but world class tactics?
Remember that he has had more money at his disposal than most managers, was fortunate to have the class of '92 come through together, a feat he has failed to come near to replicate in the last 20 years.
In the Champions League he has won it twice in 20 attempts, the first was when his team was outplayed for 89 minutes, and the second was on penalties against another English team.
I would argue that the Premier League is slightly more competitive than the Spanish or Scottish leagues, but not greatly so (4 teams have won it in the last 17 years, and Manchester City have only been competitive in the last couple of those years).
The Terminator
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- Aug 7, 2010
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We do seem to have the most fans with serve selective memory
Thought so.
The initially unsaid message in the OT was that Gus knockers were the clueless ones.
They aren't. They just get fed up with the results from a collection of ex PL and CL players finding winning such a difficult thing (14 in 37 games), whereas clubs with tiny player budgets and income such as Barnsley, Bristol C, Charlton and P'boro have clocked up almost as many.
To top that, teams like Hull 21 wins and CP 18 wins, march on.
Yes, it is an amazing stadium thanks to TB, and the occasional win keeps morale up, but for the second season in a row, something is not right on the playing side.
The initially unsaid message in the OT was that Gus knockers were the clueless ones.
They aren't. They just get fed up with the results from a collection of ex PL and CL players finding winning such a difficult thing (14 in 37 games), whereas clubs with tiny player budgets and income such as Barnsley, Bristol C, Charlton and P'boro have clocked up almost as many.
To top that, teams like Hull 21 wins and CP 18 wins, march on.
Yes, it is an amazing stadium thanks to TB, and the occasional win keeps morale up, but for the second season in a row, something is not right on the playing side.
somerset
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I couldnt have said it better myself, its not being deliberately negative, its simply reflecting a view of where we are in reality, and posing a question.
withdeanwombat
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As a clueless fan,I welcome all fellow travellers.
Ah well this is where some of us part company. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the playing side. Like 99% of the teams at all levels in Britain we win games, draw games and lose games. We play well, so-so and badly. We get the advantage of refereeing decisions and we have some go against us. The team has had money spent on it and, as you'd expect, it's in a higher league position than before it had money spent on it. If we were still in League One, or struggling Wolves-style at the foot of the Championship then I'd agree with you. As it is what more do the more impatient fans realistically want? The answer seems to be "Well we shouldn't go three games without a win and we should be one or two places higher", which .... well I won't say 'is clueless' rather I'll say "displays a lack of understanding of football dynamics and an inability to see past the short-term'.
Knotty
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Clueless is probably an over-critical word to use.
I would say however that there appear to be some who express opinions based on expectations that are too high, guesswork, unsubstantiated rumours, what they want to be the case rather than what is actually the case, or based on little or no knowledge of facts.
I would say however that there appear to be some who express opinions based on expectations that are too high, guesswork, unsubstantiated rumours, what they want to be the case rather than what is actually the case, or based on little or no knowledge of facts.
Worthingite
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Very much this. Never met such a myopic, backwards looking bunch of people ever!!! They are more brainwashed than scientologists!!
Excellent post.
brightonrock
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This. People are wetting themselves over ONE game, or THREE, or FIVE. The season is long and whilst losing to barnsley was tedious and awful, you can just as easily point to cardiff away or hull/huddersfield at home to see positives. The inability to look beyond the immediate is what makes people seem clueless and bipolar - if we lose on sun this place will be in suicidal meltdown, but who knows we won't then win 7 on the spin and suddenly (other than bragging rights) the loss won't matter?
I try to see over 'quarters' of a season, every 10-12 games. We've won about 5/6 and drawn 3/4 out of the last 12 (I think) which is promotion form. On a long enough scale the Barnsley result, whilst annoying, doesn't seem as important.
From my personal point of view I actually don't mind people saying 'Gus Out' - if that's their honest measured opinion and they stick with it even when the team's winning. The real 'clueless' ones are those who say (after a few defeats) 'Poyet out!', and then after a relatively good spell say "Well I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong", and then after three or four games without a win go back to "I was right to have my doubts about Poyet" It's that bi-polar, short-term headless chicken mentality that helps get fans branded as 'clueless'.
Meade's Ball
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I hope we have a wide array of numbskulls on the board. And evidence points to the fact we do. Important to remember every one of us is an idiot to someone else. And if that isn't the case, then that simply means the unidiotifiable has never said a word or flashed a glance at anyone.
The internet is the home of immediate and oft absurd over-reactions. In public they'd be the same, but generally kept in our heads and even when spoken barely remembered. So there'll be freakouts and aggressive callings and flounces and screeches for mercy, but ideally we all get to recall when we log off that perhaps life goes on outside of here and that each of us on here is unlikely to be exactly as we are in person.
The internet is the home of immediate and oft absurd over-reactions. In public they'd be the same, but generally kept in our heads and even when spoken barely remembered. So there'll be freakouts and aggressive callings and flounces and screeches for mercy, but ideally we all get to recall when we log off that perhaps life goes on outside of here and that each of us on here is unlikely to be exactly as we are in person.
Not Andy Naylor
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I won't have that. The prize has to go to Portsmouth fans who couldn't understand why they weren't signing players capable of getting them back into Europe as the club went into administration.
Baaaald
3rd time lucky
yes they are but they don't have as good forum's to vent on a we do!!!!!