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Anyone else think Sambo's username is slightly RACIST?



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Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
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So suggestions for his new name?

Just call me Racist
The man with the racist name.
Sam-bo-selecta

???
 








Sam

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Jul 22, 2003
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well say goodbye to Sambo, looks like its "Sam" to stay

i think Sam on my shirt will do. Some one suggested "the man with the racist name" which i quite liked!
 


El Presidente

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For younger NSC members: There was a TV program in the early 1970's called Love Thy Neighbour, it featured a black family living next to a white family. The two wives got on fine, but the white husband (played by I think Jack Smethurst) was a bigot, and called his neighbour 'Nig-Nog' 'Wog' and .........'Sambo'.

This was considered hilarious at the time, but a bit of embarrasment now.

If you think racism has gone away, try the experiment shown on Channel 4 of a white couple being made up as asian, and see the reaction they got pretending to run a corner shop from white youths and bigots.

It is offensive, and fortunately is a term that has all but disappeared from today's vocabulary
 




Sam

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Jul 22, 2003
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Formal Apology:


I am very sorry to anyone that I have offended by having my username as Sambo. I did not intend to offend and now an admin has changed my username so that people may no longer take offence to my username.
 


Turkey

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A word, which was offensive 30 years ago, is still considered to be unacceptable.

I think its a bit off, surely calling Sam, Sambo, is putting the past behind. It is in no way used in a racist manner and anyone who takes offence.. well its a bit silly in my opinion.
 


El Presidente

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Does that mean that the Nazi Holocaust is acceptable because it was 60 years ago..........and of course he was initially voted in by the Germans as the acceptable face of bigotry....:nono:
 




El Presidente

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Eddie Booth (a staunch Union Jack-waving socialist) and his wife Joan live in Maple Terrace next door to a West Indian couple, Bill and Barbie Reynolds.

Joan and Barbie are good friends but their husbands (who work together at the same factory) are perpetually bickering because of Eddie's bigotry and color prejudice. Eddie hates the fact that he has to live next door to Jamaicans, and his cheerful West Indian neighbor, Bill (who also happens to be a dyed-in-the-wool Tory), is just as good at trading insults back.

Having previously explored ethnic disharmony in Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width, writing partners Vince Powell and Harry Driver followed Johnny Speight down the path of employing bigotry as humor. Unfortunately, whereas Til Death Us Do Part and Curry And Chips (however misunderstood they might have been) had highlighted the ignorance endemic in racism, Love Thy Neighbour rarely rose above name-calling and crude stereotyping.

While the show boasted 17 million viewers at its peak, it is inconceivable that a show like Love Thy Neighbour could be made today. The racist jibes ("Sambo", "King Kong", "Nig Nog", "Chocolate Drop" etc) are rarely heard (and never condoned) in the world today. One must bear in mind though, that what is politically incorrect now has not always been so.

By 1976, public sensitivity saw the show canceled. It was certainly a product of it's time, and unlikely as it may seem today, Love Thy Neighbour was also once turned into a 2 hour play for a summer season at Blackpool (no pun intended).

Jack Smethurst said at the time; - "I think it will be a bit of an eye opener for tourists, especially those from countries like South Africa and the American Deep South. At home they would never see a show where black and white people abuse one another in a comedy situation."

Jack went on; "It's a very British show. The majority of people here see it for what it is - a show of racial tolerance". Excuse me?

Black actors Rudolph Walker and Nina Baden-Semper both claimed not to be offended by the racism in the scripts and, like the writers, hoped that Love Thy Neighbour would break down barriers. Sadly it did no such thing.

It was however, a rip-roaring success, and even after the show's cancellation in Britain, a further seven episodes of the series were made and screened only in Australia. Titled Love Thy Neighbour In Australia, the episodes showed Eddie Booth, having temporarily gone "Down Under" to work, moving into the Sydney suburb of Blacktown (clearly the humor was not overly subtle) to find - surprise, surprise - a problem with his neighbors.
 


Citrus

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Jul 11, 2003
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El Presidente said:
Does that mean that the Nazi Holocaust is acceptable because it was 60 years ago..........and of course he was initially voted in by the Germans as the acceptable face of bigotry....:nono:

Not quite the same.:nono:
 


Sam

Formerly "Sambo"
Jul 22, 2003
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El Presidente said:
Does that mean that the Nazi Holocaust is acceptable because it was 60 years ago..........and of course he was initially voted in by the Germans as the acceptable face of bigotry....:nono:


not the same at all, bit like wozza's words before saying that if i happened to be called john pakian then everyone could call me paki. why dont we forget anything ever happened and :kiss: and make up!
 




Turkey

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El Presidente said:
Does that mean that the Nazi Holocaust is acceptable because it was 60 years ago..........and of course he was initially voted in by the Germans as the acceptable face of bigotry....:nono:

Of course the holocaust wasn't acceptable. That was the murder of thousands.

A word however? Sambo. You can't compare.
 




I remember the (rather silly) music newspaper NME doing a routine on sexism and feminists, suggesting that bands might have to change their names to be pc. They came up with 'Person' (MAN), Personfred Person (Manfred Man), and the likes of Persons Together Outrageously (GTO's), Groin (FANNY), etc.
Somewhat amusing, but isn't making fun of this stuff what really breaks it down and dissipates it ultimately?

Hitler wasn't making jokes, and neither are the KKK - but Howard Stern (Jewish I understand) actually gets racists on his show so he can take the piss ! "wake urp whaate peepall" says the southern accent KKK plonker - and Stern takes a serious stance while asking the racist some bizarre questions - so the plonker doesn't even get it and comes out with seriously stupid responses that HE thinks make sense .

If Stern had interviewed Hitler or SS leaders, I think they would have been laughed into extinction .
Monty Python did anti-semitism no favours by mocking it relentlessly in 'The Life Of Brian', and I think the World is better for it in the long run. Credit is also due to the majority of Jews, because they did not go out wholesale to picket or ban it for saying 'bignose' or 'Red Sea pedestrian' either.

I have met and faced off with NF before, and their leader was a serious sad twat who deserved only ridicule.

If we take these people too seriously, there maybe a chance they might actually gain credibility.

"the real enemy is the Judean People's Front ..... splitters !"
 






Sam

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Packie Bonner, Legendary Ex- Celtic and Republic of Ireland Goalkeeper

oh yeah! was that his full real name?
 


dwayne

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I think I've just come.
 
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JEM

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El Presidente said:
Eddie Booth (a staunch Union Jack-waving socialist) and his wife Joan live in Maple Terrace next door to a West Indian couple, Bill and Barbie Reynolds.

Joan and Barbie are good friends but their husbands (who work together at the same factory) are perpetually bickering because of Eddie's bigotry and color prejudice. Eddie hates the fact that he has to live next door to Jamaicans, and his cheerful West Indian neighbor, Bill (who also happens to be a dyed-in-the-wool Tory), is just as good at trading insults back.

Having previously explored ethnic disharmony in Never Mind The Quality, Feel The Width, writing partners Vince Powell and Harry Driver followed Johnny Speight down the path of employing bigotry as humor. Unfortunately, whereas Til Death Us Do Part and Curry And Chips (however misunderstood they might have been) had highlighted the ignorance endemic in racism, Love Thy Neighbour rarely rose above name-calling and crude stereotyping.

While the show boasted 17 million viewers at its peak, it is inconceivable that a show like Love Thy Neighbour could be made today. The racist jibes ("Sambo", "King Kong", "Nig Nog", "Chocolate Drop" etc) are rarely heard (and never condoned) in the world today. One must bear in mind though, that what is politically incorrect now has not always been so.

By 1976, public sensitivity saw the show canceled. It was certainly a product of it's time, and unlikely as it may seem today, Love Thy Neighbour was also once turned into a 2 hour play for a summer season at Blackpool (no pun intended).

Jack Smethurst said at the time; - "I think it will be a bit of an eye opener for tourists, especially those from countries like South Africa and the American Deep South. At home they would never see a show where black and white people abuse one another in a comedy situation."

Jack went on; "It's a very British show. The majority of people here see it for what it is - a show of racial tolerance". Excuse me?

Black actors Rudolph Walker and Nina Baden-Semper both claimed not to be offended by the racism in the scripts and, like the writers, hoped that Love Thy Neighbour would break down barriers. Sadly it did no such thing.

It was however, a rip-roaring success, and even after the show's cancellation in Britain, a further seven episodes of the series were made and screened only in Australia. Titled Love Thy Neighbour In Australia, the episodes showed Eddie Booth, having temporarily gone "Down Under" to work, moving into the Sydney suburb of Blacktown (clearly the humor was not overly subtle) to find - surprise, surprise - a problem with his neighbors.

Of course, what you didn't point out was that the black guy invariably always got the upper hand and had the last laugh at the end of each episode...
 






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He's still, he's still Dwayney from E Block
 


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