Any coppers out there?

[cobbyseagull]

well...interestin readin above...kind of turned into 'lets hate all Police kinda thing'....all I could say is there are the twats in the Police but look around your office or whether you work they are everywhere...but ould you call me a twat as a police officer when your im helping a family out after somethin like a burglary, taking details of domestic violence where the victim tells you all and you change there lives for the better.....yes sometimes we have to treat people firmly but there actions justify it.....as for football Police I have seen some horrible stuff normally from the met..and most of the time these are specialist units and normally these have the big 'i am' kinda people and what you get is arrogant officers. but wer enot all the same.

Oh and by the way I have very little kit on my belt and yes we do also think the ones with all the kit think they are it!!!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Presumably the people being photographed coming out of prison were on early release etc, so technically were still serving their time. As such it makes sense to have an up to date picture, just in case by mere chance one of them just happened to re-offend before their time was up.
Not that I am saying any of them would re-offend you understand....

...but there are ways and means of doing it. Waiting in a car and ambushing people is a sure fire way to get people's backs up. And then threatening to arrest them when they shield their face is even more crazy.

I've said time and time again the plod need the public on their side if they are to be successful in their work. Acts like this do not help. Someone high-up must have sanctioned this approach. This person needs talking to.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

...but there are ways and means of doing it. Waiting in a car and ambushing people is a sure fire way to get people's backs up. And then threatening to arrest them when they shield their face is even more crazy.

I've said time and time again the plod need the public on their side if they are to be successful in their work. Acts like this do not help. Someone high-up must have sanctioned this approach. This person needs talking to.

Out of interest, what was the guy in prison for?

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

no , not at all

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most of them are though.


bullied at school? people dont listen to you ? not the centre of attention in the pub with your mate? thick? think youre hard? like the feeling of power a truncheon and cs gives you? hate pakis?

join the police

Not quite. The real inadequates join as a Special. Who else would wear a uniform in public for no money at all?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Not quite. The real inadequates join as a Special. Who else would wear a uniform in public for no money at all?

That's not remotely fair, most of the specials I know are very decent people. Would you give up your free time to spend it standing around outside Oceana with pissheads gobbing off in your face and complaining non-stop about being chucked out of nightclubs?

One of the specials I used to work with is a self-made millionaire- he does the job because he works in an office in the City all day and, for want of a better phrase, wants to "give something back" to society. And not in the form of a smack in the mouth, before you say it...

I actually think what the Specials do is pretty admirable- I love my job but would I do it for free? Probably not.

 

[grummitts gloves]

The Police recruit people from all walks of life. Sometimes a few bad ones slip through the net. Standards have definitely dropped over the years. Some officers get promoted well above their abilities and make stupid decisisons that effect all officers. Believe it or not, it is still a disciplined service, which means you have to do as you are told, even if you challenge the decision being made. If some of you have had a bad experinece with the Police than that is a real shame.

The national media love to print stories about when the police make mistakes. It doesn't sell national papers to print stories about when things go right.

I can't be bothered to quote some of the above posts on this thread, but just want to make a few points for you to consider.

Uniformed officers who have a few years experience working in large forces such as the Met, GMP, West Mids etc are more likely to face violent confrontation on a daily basis, thus making them a little more hardened in their approach to the public than perhaps officers who patrol in forces such as Dorset or Wiltshire. It's very difficult to police, keeping a smile on your face when large proportions of you duty time are spent taking taking verbal or physical abuse.

Don't tar us all with the same brush. It takes courage to carry a firearm in the police knowing you may well be suspended, treated like a criminal and possibly charged with murder if it goes wrong. Oh and I nearly forgot, you may well end up getting shot yourself.

It takes courage to investigate sex offenders, particularly when the victims are children, you may have children yourself, you know that even if you secure a conviction, the sentence is likely to be paltry. To remember that even though they are the scum of the earth, you have to protect them and their human rights. But still those dedicated officers turn up for work day after day to keep trying to put those people away.

It takes courage to attend a bomb scene and recover dead bodies and body parts after they have been blown to smithereens by a terrorists bomb.

It takes courage to be trained and deal with chemical/biological/radioligical/nuclear incidents, knowing that if it goes wrong, you may die.

There are so many dedicated units within the police dealing with horrendous things that you will never know about, because they are prevented from happening, thus don't make the press.

All those officers doing the above mentioned jobs all started in the same place, i.e. all came from a uniform background before going on to specialise.

So, remember we are human to. Mistakes get made, sometimes serious ones. So next time the 'old bill haters' on here fancy having a pop at the boys and girls in blue out on the streets, ask yourself if you, your family, friends and workmates are so perfect and get everything right all of the time?

 

[Golden Oldie]

Well said!

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

That's not remotely fair, most of the specials I know are very decent people. Would you give up your free time to spend it standing around outside Oceana with pissheads gobbing off in your face and complaining non-stop about being chucked out of nightclubs?

One of the specials I used to work with is a self-made millionaire- he does the job because he works in an office in the City all day and, for want of a better phrase, wants to "give something back" to society. And not in the form of a smack in the mouth, before you say it...

I actually think what the Specials do is pretty admirable- I love my job but would I do it for free? Probably not.

The Specials I know are complete and utter dickheads who do it for a power rush. SPC Julian, who used to be employed in Sussex, pulled me over once whilst I was on a driving detail in my last job. He was actually in his own car, and did not have his uniform on. He came within a whisker of getting shot and had no idea that he had three weapons trained on him as he approached my vehicle. This was despite the op being notified to the control room in Sussex and the car registration being generally notified as a "do not stop"! Didn't help that he looked like Jeremy Beadle...

The other Specials down here are power crazed wankers who make up the law as they go along, often with the real police having to slap them down (very embarassing when it's in public), or ask to have them detailed to parking and traffic control roles because they can't be trusted otherwise.

I don't doubt there are some good ones out there, it's just that I have yet to find them, and most of the police I used to work with barely had a good word to say about any of them.

 

[Hunting 784561]

I've generally found in life that if you are decent to people, they tend to be even more decent back to you.

The same goes for dealings with the Police, if you behave like a c*nt to them, they will behave like a double c*nt back to you.

Simples really...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The Police recruit people from all walks of life. Sometimes a few bad ones slip through the net. Standards have definitely dropped over the years. Some officers get promoted well above their abilities and make stupid decisisons that effect all officers. Believe it or not, it is still a disciplined service, which means you have to do as you are told, even if you challenge the decision being made. If some of you have had a bad experinece with the Police than that is a real shame.

The national media love to print stories about when the police make mistakes. It doesn't sell national papers to print stories about when things go right.

I can't be bothered to quote some of the above posts on this thread, but just want to make a few points for you to consider.

Uniformed officers who have a few years experience working in large forces such as the Met, GMP, West Mids etc are more likely to face violent confrontation on a daily basis, thus making them a little more hardened in their approach to the public than perhaps officers who patrol in forces such as Dorset or Wiltshire. It's very difficult to police, keeping a smile on your face when large proportions of you duty time are spent taking taking verbal or physical abuse.

Don't tar us all with the same brush. It takes courage to carry a firearm in the police knowing you may well be suspended, treated like a criminal and possibly charged with murder if it goes wrong. Oh and I nearly forgot, you may well end up getting shot yourself.

It takes courage to investigate sex offenders, particularly when the victims are children, you may have children yourself, you know that even if you secure a conviction, the sentence is likely to be paltry. To remember that even though they are the scum of the earth, you have to protect them and their human rights. But still those dedicated officers turn up for work day after day to keep trying to put those people away.

It takes courage to attend a bomb scene and recover dead bodies and body parts after they have been blown to smithereens by a terrorists bomb.

It takes courage to be trained and deal with chemical/biological/radioligical/nuclear incidents, knowing that if it goes wrong, you may die.

There are so many dedicated units within the police dealing with horrendous things that you will never know about, because they are prevented from happening, thus don't make the press.

All those officers doing the above mentioned jobs all started in the same place, i.e. all came from a uniform background before going on to specialise.

So, remember we are human to. Mistakes get made, sometimes serious ones. So next time the 'old bill haters' on here fancy having a pop at the boys and girls in blue out on the streets, ask yourself if you, your family, friends and workmates are so perfect and get everything right all of the time?

Absolutely agree. The only police I have an issue with are the ones that police football - they assume every supporter is a brainless thug - as you put it don't tar us all with the same brush. It's bad enough that the public at large paint us as likely to rip off the heads off grannies and pee in their gardens as per the residents of Withdean without the police re-enforcing that stereotype. I just find it strange that when I've called the police or spoken to the police away from football they're the most helpful professionals - put them in a football stadium and they turn into a bunch of knob heads !

 

[portslade seagull]

Most policemen/women that i have come across have been regular decent peeps....think most police haters are the ones who create/cause trouble basically because they get caught !!....

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

The Specials I know are complete and utter dickheads who do it for a power rush. SPC Julian, who used to be employed in Sussex, pulled me over once whilst I was on a driving detail in my last job. He was actually in his own car, and did not have his uniform on. He came within a whisker of getting shot and had no idea that he had three weapons trained on him as he approached my vehicle. This was despite the op being notified to the control room in Sussex and the car registration being generally notified as a "do not stop"! Didn't help that he looked like Jeremy Beadle...

The other Specials down here are power crazed wankers who make up the law as they go along, often with the real police having to slap them down (very embarassing when it's in public), or ask to have them detailed to parking and traffic control roles because they can't be trusted otherwise.

I don't doubt there are some good ones out there, it's just that I have yet to find them, and most of the police I used to work with barely had a good word to say about any of them.

I believe I know the gentleman in question here and , if it is him, I can confirm he is a gobshite.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

.....as for football Police I have seen some horrible stuff normally from the met..and most of the time these are specialist units and normally these have the big 'i am' kinda people and what you get is arrogant officers. but wer enot all the same.

There are so many dedicated units within the police dealing with horrendous things that you will never know about, because they are prevented from happening, thus don't make the press.

All those officers doing the above mentioned jobs all started in the same place, i.e. all came from a uniform background before going on to specialise.

So what is it?

Specialist units = arrogant officers?
or
Specialist units = dedicated saviours of society?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Out of interest, what was the guy in prison for?

I cannot recall exactly but it wasnt murder or anything serious.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

what with pople like you trying..........

easy, i think you may be talking to the legendry mr Balkham

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Would you give up your free time to spend it standing around outside Oceana with pissheads gobbing off in your face and complaining non-stop about being chucked out of nightclubs?

Good point this is. I must admit to having watched a few of them police tv progs. The Blackpool special was class. On about three separate occasions there was a scene where some pissed idiot was arguing quite strongly with the police and the police officer said 'please walk away or I'll arrest you' umpteen times.......said idiots didnt and argued their way into a cell for the night. I lost count of how many chances these guys had to walk away.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

the OB got a good pay rise a while back, like all jobs you get the same old characters, i've seen both sides of the coin, the good are OK, the bad are just criminals in uniform

 

[El Presidente]

My 15 year old son was assaulted in Manchester about a month ago, and the police have been absolutely fantastic. The guy who did it (who is 22, clearly a big man picking on someone his own age and size) is up in court next week.

 

[grummitts gloves]

the OB got a good pay rise a while back, like all jobs you get the same old characters, i've seen both sides of the coin, the good are OK, the bad are just criminals in uniform

That pay rise was hard fought for by the Police Federation. As you may or may not know, the Police do not have the right to strike, so basically we have to appeal to the governments better nature and hope for the best. (not like the tube drivers who earn more than us and work less hours). Initially the government didn't want to give us a pay rise at all! The payrise request was to only be inline with inflation (again, unlike tube drivers).

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That pay rise was hard fought for by the Police Federation. As you may or may not know, the Police do not have the right to strike, so basically we have to appeal to the governments better nature and hope for the best. (not like the tube drivers who earn more than us and work less hours). Initially the government didn't want to give us a pay rise at all! The payrise request was to only be inline with inflation (again, unlike tube drivers).

yes i know. but with all that OT it makes it a nice wage packet