Another England thread!

[Munkfish]

1.Would you rather of got there and failed misrabley like the french or failed misrabley and not got there? to be honest i think they are both as bad as eachover especially how the french just looked pathetic.

2. How shocking would we have been as we only recently lost to the french team who looked so hopeless at this championship!

 

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I'm just glad McClown got sacked sooner rather then later and we got Capello in ASAP so not qualifying had a silver lining for me.

 

[British Bulldog]

I dont honestly think we've got enough quality players to be competing in major competitions anyway.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

1.Would you rather of got there and failed misrabley like the french or failed misrabley and not got there? to be honest i think they are both as bad as eachover especially how the french just looked pathetic.

2. How shocking would we have been as we only recently lost to the french team who looked so hopeless at this championship!

I wasn't really interested in the tournament in the beginning, but I must say I have seen some very entertaining stuff. I think it's because we're not involved I want the best teams and the best football to win, rather than hoping the good teams go out in case we face them.

So, all in all, I;m glad we're not there cos

a) McClaren got the boot
b) I'm enjoying the spectacle

but, I would rather we were there, but I fear we would have failed miserably.

 

[Mendoza]

I guess getting there and failing, because we always do that

At least if we got there, we still have a chance of somehow sneaky through like the germans and italians did.

and at least we'd something to take time off work for

 

[Munkfish]

I Was glad McClown went, but i have missed sneaking the afternoon off and having a few beers with mates and then reacreating the game down the park later like a 10 year old and the general atmosphere which is generated when we are in a major tournment.

 

[Gully]

I dont honestly think we've got enough quality players to be competing in major competitions anyway.

I reckon we do have some players of quality...however, it is almost 20 years since we put out a cohesive unit that many of us like to call a team, who played for each other and the manager, whilst at the same time looking capable of actually winning something.

For those not old enough to remember, it was the team Bobby Robson led during Italia 90, containing the likes of Lineker, Gasgoigne and Pearce...all of whom wore the shirt with pride and commitment and would willingly have died for their country...the present shower are largely unfit to lace their boots, let alone dine at the same table.

 

[Fourteenth Eye]

I know what the pub trade would have liked

 

[Sheebo]

I dont honestly think we've got enough quality players to be competing in major competitions anyway.

Apart from the quality of Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole x 2, Owen, Beckham etc etc...?

U honestly don't think we're good enough to be in the top 16 teams in EUROPE!? Are u f***ing mental?

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

I reckon we do have some players of quality...however, it is almost 20 years since we put out a cohesive unit that many of us like to call a team, who played for each other and the manager, whilst at the same time looking capable of actually winning something.

For those not old enough to remember, it was the team Bobby Robson led during Italia 90, containing the likes of Lineker, Gasgoigne and Pearce...all of whom wore the shirt with pride and commitment and would willingly have died for their country...the present shower are largely unfit to lace their boots, let alone dine at the same table.

I also think that we looked very, very good in France 98 as well. Bearing inmind that only a few months before we won Le Tournoi which included France and Italy and Brazil.

However we all know that we were reduced to 10 men against the Argies (thanks Becks) then lost on pens. But we were a very, very comfortable side then. Hoddle built a decent team. I reckon we could have gone all the way that year.

Granted he then lost the plot with his comments about disabled people being punished for what they done in a previous life and all the Eileen Drewery nonsense.

 

[Sheebo]

I also think that we looked very, very good in France 98 as well. Bearing inmind that only a few months before we won Le Tournoi which included France and Italy and Brazil.

However we all know that we were reduced to 10 men against the Argies (thanks Becks) then lost on pens. But we were a very, very comfortable side then. Hoddle built a decent team. I reckon we could have gone all the way that year.

Granted he then lost the plot with his comments about disabled people being punished for what they done in a previous life and all the Eileen Drewery nonsense.

Spot on - LOVED France 98

 

[British Bulldog]

Apart from the quality of Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole x 2, Owen, Beckham etc etc...?

U honestly don't think we're good enough to be in the top 16 teams in EUROPE!? Are u f***ing mental?

Rooney rarely scores for England, Owen is allways injured and beckham is no more than a has been now. Yeah were blessed with central midfielders, centre backs and left backs but where's the quality keeper, right back, wide players and an out and out striker?

 

[Munkfish]

Left backs? i think thats one of the reasons we didnt get to the championships!

 

[Elder for England]

Apart from the quality of Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole x 2, Owen, Beckham etc etc...?

U honestly don't think we're good enough to be in the top 16 teams in EUROPE!? Are u f***ing mental?

The fact speaks for itself - we're not there! i.e we're not good enough.

These players don't seem the same for England as they do for their clubs. They no longer look like 'quality' players or look as though they care half as much, other than Beckham. Rooney is really not very good for England neither is Joe Cole. Something needs to change, and I think some players need to be dropped.

 

[Bluejuice]

Apart from the quality of Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole x 2, Owen, Beckham etc etc...?

U honestly don't think we're good enough to be in the top 16 teams in EUROPE!? Are u f***ing mental?

Well obviously not, otherwise we'd be there

 

[Sheebo]

The fact speaks for itself - we're not there! i.e we're not good enough.

These players don't seem the same for England as they do for their clubs. They no longer look like 'quality' players or look as though they care half as much, other than Beckham. Rooney is really not very good for England neither is Joe Cole. Something needs to change, and I think some players need to be dropped.

It doesn't spk for itself at all - of course we are one of the best teams in Europe - we just underperformed for a clown manager

 

[Gully]

I think times have changed, I doubt if the current crop of players really dream of playing for their country...most want a big salary, house in Cheshire, flash car and a WAG...no room for three lions on a shirt.

 

[Sheebo]

Well obviously not, otherwise we'd be there

Sometimes funny things happen in football - 11 for 11 we're easily in the top 5 in the WORLD - blatantly even if you don't agree with that we're top 10 - we've got to the 1/4s twice in recent WORLD cups and the Semis in the last 5 World Cups so blatently overall we ARE good enough...

We simply didn't perform as we could and should in qualifying - for a shit manager...

 

[Sheebo]

I think times have changed, I doubt if the current crop of players really dream of playing for their country...most want a big salary, house in Cheshire, flash car and a WAG...no room for three lions on a shirt.

Scarily this could be true for the odd person - but i'm confident that Capello will sort this...

 

[Gully]

Scarily this could be true for the odd person - but i'm confident that Capello will sort this...

I think he will too, the attitudes of the players needed to be tackled, I think he is the man to do it...at least the FA got this one right.