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they don't exist. ALL bowlers get carted in T20
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A thread full of things BETTER at cricket than Chad Keegan
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they don't exist. ALL bowlers get carted in T20
Gerbil
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Apart from Yardy, he rarely gets smacked (Admittedly he did on Sunday!)
Scotty Mac
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Best comment on the Sky coverage last night (I think from Dominic Cork) was after Keegan had bowled a maiden ...
"We have just watched the worst maiden over in the history of one day cricket".
"We have just watched the worst maiden over in the history of one day cricket".
Lord Bracknell
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Incidentally ... why was Luke Wright wearing a shirt last night that said "GATTING 25" on the back? Were they selling them off cheap in the Club shop? Is Luke Wright a fan?
I agree all bowlers do at some time get carted in 20 20, but not ALL the time and the better ones are the ones whose good spells come much more regularly and I am sorry but Chad's good spells are very very very infrequent and much fewer and far between when compared to Yassir, Kirtley's, RMJ (I know he has retired now), Dwayne, Yardy's, Beer etc.
Whilst we are on the subject of Sussex CCC players that are shit, what's the point of Joe Gatting, I just dont get him, is the jump from Preston Gonads to first class cricket to big for him, he's had so many chances in all forms of the game, still, at the end of the season he will do what other professionals of his age do and head to the Southern Hemisphere, mayby to South Africa to work on his game with Mr Davis, or to Australia to play grade cricket, mayby even New Zealand? that's what he will do for sure, and come back in late Feb raring to go!!
Oh wait a minute, he's gonna play Foolsball for Shitehawk
Oh wait a minute, he's gonna play Foolsball for Shitehawk
Sorry Simmo - that's just not right. I am no fan of Keegans, but here are the averages (based on 20/20 played for Sussex CCC):
Economy (run's per over):
MH Yardy 6.16
CD Nash 6.84
Yasir Arafat 7.34
WAT Beer 7.37
CB Keegan 7.51
RSC M-J 7.52
DR Smith 7.79
LJ Wright 7.88
RJ Kirtley 8.03
OP Rayner 8.19
Average (runs conceded per wicket taken):
CD Nash 18.83
Yasir Arafat 21.02
MH Yardy 25.55
RJ Kirtley 25.57
LJ Wright 27.71
DR Smith 27.75
CB Keegan 28.5
WAT Beer 29.5
OP Rayner 33.0
RSC M-J 33.91
Strike Rate (av no. of balls required to take a wicket):
CD Nash 16.5
Yasir Arafat 17.1
RJ Kirtley 19.0
LJ Wright 21.0
DR Smith 21.3
CB Keegan 22.7
WAT Beer 24.0
OP Rayner 24.1
MH Yardy 24.8
RSC M-J 27.0
Good research mate
can you do a similar exercise for Jo Gatting please in all forms of Cricket, obviously batting though. Cheers
I like the economy stat because in T20 the wickets taken in the end is a meaningless stat (I accept that taking wickets slows the run rate, but run rate is the best measure of that!).
Multiply up each bowlers Economy rate and you get the opposition score if that bowler had bowled all 20 overs. Makes interesting reading:
Economy (run's per over):
MH Yardy 123.2
CD Nash 136.8
Yasir Arafat 146.8
WAT Beer 147.4
CB Keegan 150.2
RSC Martin-Jenkins 150.4
DR Smith 155.8
LJ Wright 157.6
RJ Kirtley 160.6
OP Rayner 163.8
Yardy would allow the opposition just 123 runs in 20 overs, a position you'd hope to win from. Keegan would give the opposition 150 runs - typically, neither a strong nor weak position. Luke and Kirtley would be conceding around 160 in 20 overs.
Even looking at best bowling spells, Chad comes in the upper middle of the pack (although I can't find out how many times he has match-winning spells):
Best bowling figures:
RSC Martin-Jenkins 4/20
Yasir Arafat 4/21
RJ Kirtley 4/22
CB Keegan 3/11
DR Smith 3/14
WAT Beer 3/17
LJ Wright 3/17
MH Yardy 3/21
CD Nash 2/17
OP Rayner 1/16
Does this change anyone's minds about Keegan?
Multiply up each bowlers Economy rate and you get the opposition score if that bowler had bowled all 20 overs. Makes interesting reading:
Economy (run's per over):
MH Yardy 123.2
CD Nash 136.8
Yasir Arafat 146.8
WAT Beer 147.4
CB Keegan 150.2
RSC Martin-Jenkins 150.4
DR Smith 155.8
LJ Wright 157.6
RJ Kirtley 160.6
OP Rayner 163.8
Yardy would allow the opposition just 123 runs in 20 overs, a position you'd hope to win from. Keegan would give the opposition 150 runs - typically, neither a strong nor weak position. Luke and Kirtley would be conceding around 160 in 20 overs.
Even looking at best bowling spells, Chad comes in the upper middle of the pack (although I can't find out how many times he has match-winning spells):
Best bowling figures:
RSC Martin-Jenkins 4/20
Yasir Arafat 4/21
RJ Kirtley 4/22
CB Keegan 3/11
DR Smith 3/14
WAT Beer 3/17
LJ Wright 3/17
MH Yardy 3/21
CD Nash 2/17
OP Rayner 1/16
Does this change anyone's minds about Keegan?
Joe Gatting in T20 (can't find the rest of his First Class just now):
Strike rate:
LJ Wright 148.58
MJ Prior 146.51
BB McCullum 145.98
DR Smith 133.33
JS Gatting 126.08
CD Nash 125.89
Yasir Arafat 122.81
MW Goodwin 121.38
AJ Hodd 115.92
PP Chawla 112.5
WAT Beer 110.44
MH Yardy 108.61
RSC M-J 106.75
CB Keegan 104.16
OP Rayner 101.19
BC Brown 90.47
EC Joyce 86.37
RJ Kirtley 55.35
Average in T20 for Sussex:
BB McCullum 33.33
MH Yardy 29.41 (with a staggering 17 not outs!)
MW Goodwin 28.69
MJ Prior 26.88
DR Smith 24.51
CD Nash 22.55
LJ Wright 22.54
OP Rayner 21.25
EC Joyce 16.25
Yasir Arafat 14.88
JS Gatting 14.5
RSC M-J 13.16
AJ Hodd 13
CB Keegan 10.71
WAT Beer 10.57
BC Brown 4.75
RJ Kirtley 3.87
Strike rate:
LJ Wright 148.58
MJ Prior 146.51
BB McCullum 145.98
DR Smith 133.33
JS Gatting 126.08
CD Nash 125.89
Yasir Arafat 122.81
MW Goodwin 121.38
AJ Hodd 115.92
PP Chawla 112.5
WAT Beer 110.44
MH Yardy 108.61
RSC M-J 106.75
CB Keegan 104.16
OP Rayner 101.19
BC Brown 90.47
EC Joyce 86.37
RJ Kirtley 55.35
Average in T20 for Sussex:
BB McCullum 33.33
MH Yardy 29.41 (with a staggering 17 not outs!)
MW Goodwin 28.69
MJ Prior 26.88
DR Smith 24.51
CD Nash 22.55
LJ Wright 22.54
OP Rayner 21.25
EC Joyce 16.25
Yasir Arafat 14.88
JS Gatting 14.5
RSC M-J 13.16
AJ Hodd 13
CB Keegan 10.71
WAT Beer 10.57
BC Brown 4.75
RJ Kirtley 3.87
Ok well I am very surprised about that and maybe it's just all of the games I have seen him play, he looks utter pony. Do you have a list as to how many wickets each player has taken as to me, he never looks really like taking a wicket (unless through the batsman hitting out) unlike, Yassir, Yardy, Kirtley, Beer, Dwayne etc.
He takes a wicket every 23 balls. Yardy needs 25, Kirtley 19, Beer 24, Dwayne 21 balls.
So he does take wickets. The actual number of wickets isn't all that revealing because Kirtley for example has played many more games. So best stat is "How many balls to take a wicket". I still think economy is the key in T20 since bowling the oppo out is not the measure of success, keeping their score down is.
These figures show Overs bowled / Wickets / Wickets per over bowled:
CD Nash 33 12 0.36
Yasir Arafat 114.3 40 0.35
RJ Kirtley 203.4 64 0.31
LJ Wright 123 35 0.28
DR Smith 99.4 28 0.28
CB Keegan 45.3 12 0.26
WAT Beer 80 20 0.25
OP Rayner 24.1 6 0.25
MH Yardy 149.1 36 0.24
RSC M-J 153.1 34 0.22
So he does take wickets. The actual number of wickets isn't all that revealing because Kirtley for example has played many more games. So best stat is "How many balls to take a wicket". I still think economy is the key in T20 since bowling the oppo out is not the measure of success, keeping their score down is.
These figures show Overs bowled / Wickets / Wickets per over bowled:
CD Nash 33 12 0.36
Yasir Arafat 114.3 40 0.35
RJ Kirtley 203.4 64 0.31
LJ Wright 123 35 0.28
DR Smith 99.4 28 0.28
CB Keegan 45.3 12 0.26
WAT Beer 80 20 0.25
OP Rayner 24.1 6 0.25
MH Yardy 149.1 36 0.24
RSC M-J 153.1 34 0.22
Don Tmatter
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Ok, you have convinced me by your stats that he is not as useless as I think he is. I just hope that his bowling performance in the 20 20 quarter final does so as well!
Mendoza
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I think the last two Twenty20 games at Hove we somehow batting poorly, and bowled ourselves to a winning position. Then Chad came on to bowl and got spanked around.
We then lost the games off his bad over.
Thats probably why his shitness sticks out more than the others.
oh and
We then lost the games off his bad over.
Thats probably why his shitness sticks out more than the others.
oh and
Simmo - I agree with you. I'm no fan and having seen him play half a dozen times I am amazed by the stats. He's just average however - and that may be his problem. He doesn't feel like a match winner. In a squad with so many really good all rounders there doesn't seem to be a place for an average, non-batting, bowler. Add to that his fielding - and I guess that's why we see him as a liability when the stats seem to suggest that his bowling is in fact about average.
I totally agree, in this modern day of 20 20 cricket you have to be more than a one trick pony unless you are an exceptional batter (like say Murray) or an exceptional bowler (I would put Yassir in that class but he also brings good enough batting to the table). If you are a good fielder that counts to part of what you offer but Chad is probably our worst fielder. He in the side for his bowling full stop, which I think we all agree is very mediocre at the best. He really needs to offer more to be worthy of his place in the XI.