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[Politics] 2020 US election - Joe Biden vs Donald Trump

Who's going to win?

  • Calling it for Trump

    Votes: 78 30.2%
  • Calling it for Biden

    Votes: 180 69.8%

  • Total voters
    258
  • Poll closed .






jakarta

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May 25, 2007
15,725
Sullington
Good ol Boy Tommy Tuberville has been elected as a Senator for Alabama. Aside appearing to have little knowledge of the US government structure, he's not up to speed with his history. Apparently the Americans in WW2 “liberated Europe from socialism and communism." Wait until he finds out who's side Stalin was on. That'll really confuse him.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...?utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1

It is of course arguable that the Western Allies DID liberate Europe (as far as they got) from Communism.

Wouldn't have thought the Red Army would stop at Germany?

I'm sure Stalin would have been very happy with Subjects in the Low Countries and France and be able to glower over the Channel at us.

Don't think this bloke has thought this deeply about it of course... :lolol:
 


Boys 9d

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Jan 3, 2012
1,837
Lancing
Didn't a number of Western European countries including the UK have Socialist governments after WW2?
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
25,432
Saturday is going to be interesting in Washington...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/11/maga-rally-washington-dc-435958

"The disparate tribes of MAGA Nation — Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Infowars fanatics, Groypers, Proud Boys, white nationalists, neo-Nazis and the people who would simply call themselves die-hard MAGA — have declared that they are simply going to show up in Washington en masse over the weekend to rally together, with the marquee event on Saturday."

Is there a stream ?
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,306
Mid Sussex
As they're Alt Right, he's claiming that he might join them.

Nah, the last thing you want to do as his security detail is take the president into an area full of ****ing nut jobs. Granted it’s like that in the White House most days but they can’t do anything about that.


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Lyndhurst 14

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Jan 16, 2008
5,198
Jesus wept. Has he lost his mind?

Americans are more scared of something they perceive to be socialism (which it’s not) than something which is fascism (which they can’t see.)


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I've had endless discussions with the Americans I work with about their perception of socialism. They always refer to Universal Health Care or Obama Care as socialized medicine. When you try and explain how the NHS works they just don't get it. And yet they seem completely happy when in 2008 the government bailed out most of the large banks but let the people who had lost their homes and jobs fend for them selves - if that's not socialism for the 1% I don't know what is

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/08/wall-street-socialism-jpmorgan-jamie-dimon-bailout
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
I knew this was going to happen:-

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(narrators voice - "nobody could ever have predicted this")
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
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Jul 23, 2003
36,617
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
I knew this was going to happen:-

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(narrators voice - "nobody could ever have predicted this")

Remember during the Brexit negotiations when we had a hung parliament and there were all those loons outside the HoC and everyone in the rest of the world thought Brits were absolutely Radio Rental? Well, this has the potential to surpass it. With guns.


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Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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West west west Sussex
Remember during the Brexit negotiations when we had a hung parliament and there were all those loons outside the HoC and everyone in the rest of the world thought Brits were absolutely Radio Rental? Well, this has the potential to surpass it. With guns.


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As one of the replies writes:-

Wouldn’t the ultimate irony be if Trump supporters take down Fox “News” :lol:
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,186
I've had endless discussions with the Americans I work with about their perception of socialism. They always refer to Universal Health Care or Obama Care as socialized medicine. When you try and explain how the NHS works they just don't get it. And yet they seem completely happy when in 2008 the government bailed out most of the large banks but let the people who had lost their homes and jobs fend for them selves - if that's not socialism for the 1% I don't know what is

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/08/wall-street-socialism-jpmorgan-jamie-dimon-bailout

Indeed !..... There still seems to be this kind of " Pioneer Spirit " whereby you have to carve your own future out simply by hard work and by hoping you get the breaks and be lucky, anyone who does NOT get the breaks falls by the wayside and they seem fine with this.
 


Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,437
Oxton, Birkenhead
‘The demonstrators were also identifiable by their lack of face-masks as many participants rejected measures to contain the spread of coronavirus.’ (BBC website)

It’s a shame this doesn’t invalidate health insurance policies for anyone subsequently diagnosed with the virus. The selfishness of this gathering is off the scale. A few financial consequences might help.
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
48,533
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‘The demonstrators were also identifiable by their lack of face-masks as many participants rejected measures to contain the spread of coronavirus.’ (BBC website)

It’s a shame this doesn’t invalidate health insurance policies for anyone subsequently diagnosed with the virus. The selfishness of this gathering is off the scale. A few financial consequences might help.

Not a bad idea - perhaps the health insurance companies will latch on to this as a way of saving their money! They could be doing their country a service too - a well directed cull of parts of the gene pool!
:)
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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‘The demonstrators were also identifiable by their lack of face-masks as many participants rejected measures to contain the spread of coronavirus.’ (BBC website)

It’s a shame this doesn’t invalidate health insurance policies for anyone subsequently diagnosed with the virus. The selfishness of this gathering is off the scale. A few financial consequences might help.

Hopefully they're just infecting one another. Mass Darwin award.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
67,653
Withdean area
‘The demonstrators were also identifiable by their lack of face-masks as many participants rejected measures to contain the spread of coronavirus.’ (BBC website).

Trump’s henchmen are a bunch of hypocrites, they wear face coverings when it suits them.

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Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
Hopefully they're just infecting one another. Mass Darwin award.

Yeah, but then they go and interact with humans and the virus spreads. If they could be isolated, it would be the ideal perfect storm. But they'll go back into the world and spread, spread, spread like only an arguably extremely infectious virus can.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Yeah, but then they go and interact with humans and the virus spreads. If they could be isolated, it would be the ideal perfect storm. But they'll go back into the world and spread, spread, spread like only an arguably extremely infectious virus can.

I don't think it's arguable that it is extremely infectious.

I can't imagne their social circle is exactly huge either.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,826
I've had endless discussions with the Americans I work with about their perception of socialism. They always refer to Universal Health Care or Obama Care as socialized medicine.

you can mess with their head by pointing out all health insurance is socialised medicine, collective funding of services. mutual funds are socialised ownership of stocks and assets too.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,186
Not a bad idea - perhaps the health insurance companies will latch on to this as a way of saving their money! They could be doing their country a service too - a well directed cull of parts of the gene pool!
:)

I read the other day that your car insurance may be declared invalid if you are driving for reasons other than to get to work/doctors/food shopping and you have an accident ! The Insurance companies always play with loaded dice.
 


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