You’re not as smart as you think you are......
That's a worry. I struggle making sense of a lot of things, in my opinion.
Edit: threw.
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[Albion] £14.95 to watch Albion
- Thread starter drofnud
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That's a worry. I struggle making sense of a lot of things, in my opinion.
Edit: threw.
You are not wrong.
drew
Drew
So the club and the fans were all aware of that when people started putting money down for a season tickets in March?
Fingers crossed mental gymanstics is added to the list of events at the next Olympics, you'd gurantee the UK a gold.
In March I was aware there was a lockdown in some countries and that there was a pandemic sweeping across the globe. I assumed there was a strong possibility there would be a lockdown here or that the season could be suspended and to be honest, when it was, I didn't expect it to get played out. I was looking ahead to this season. Things haven't panned out as well as they could. I can't speak for everyone else but I'm guessing a fair few that followed the news were aware of these possibilities. From the clubs point of view, they quite quickly advised that if the games from last season weren't played in front of a crowd the money would transfer to this season's ticket.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
No shit Sherlock.....
But the big issue is the club voted for PPV which goes way against what most fans expected.
Ergo our beloved club holds quite a lot of fans money paid up front for no end product (sorry to quote CEO on the product word) and then voted we should pay for PPV, small wonder some fans a little bit pissed off with their Community Club ?
The Fifth Column
Lazy mug
I don't want my money back and have never suggested that I do, the club already have my money and that secures me a season ticket TO WATCH FOOTBALL whenever that might be, as it happens they still appear to be currently playing home matches regularly. I don't expect to pay more money to the club to watch games they are playing NOW given they can deduct it from the hundreds of pounds of mine they already are in possession of. It really isn't a difficult concept to anyone with the slightest intelligence. You can continue to defend them as you have been doing constantly but it doesn't change the fact that for a large majority this feels like taking the piss.
drew
Drew
My post was aimed at another poster who gave the impression he wasn't quite on the pandemic ball back in March!!!
Don't agree that there is no end product. The problem currently is we don't know when it will be. It could have been this month but as it panned out it's going to be a lot later.
If you read another post of mine you will see I didn't argue against deducting £15 from a season ticket holders account.
London Irish
Well-known member
He’s always been like this, he was utterly dismissive during the flask ban when it was obvious that it was another penny pinching move to make fans pay for hot drinks. But he correctly gambled on having a largely pliant fan base happy to see top-flight football and sod those fans who have brought drinks to games for decades.
It will be interesting to see if paying for games twice is the issue that fans will finally start asserting their interests a bit more
I’d have thought the fairest way out of this is if the club refunds STH £15 out of the balance they hold for every home game that’s on PPV. STH can then choose to buy the PPV or not, without being further out of pocket. Whether the club has the cash flow to allow this, I don’t know - essentially, it’ll be Tony doing it. Again.
It’s a different argument about whether they should refund 100% anyway - I’m not addressing that point.
It’s a different argument about whether they should refund 100% anyway - I’m not addressing that point.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Direct debit payers have paid for 12 out of 19 home games ( source: bhafc ticket office phone call). It depends if you view that as the 1st 12 games of the season or the last 12 games as to whether the West Brom game is already paid for.
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blockhseagull
Well-known member
I think everyone needs to just take a breath and calm down a bit.
The current situation is far from ideal and clubs are having to make decisions on the hoof to try and make football available to the fans.
No one is being asked to pay for anything more than once, everyone has a choice.
The clubs were offered an opportunity to accept an offer to show the non televised games on PPV for a 3 week period following the governments decision to stop fans coming back to see games.
Would fans have preferred it if they had refused that option ?
And before people say ..... but id have said £14.95 is too much etc or I’d have changed this ..... no one knows the options or the negotiation the clubs did with the broadcasters ... in fact judging on boxing PPV it wouldn’t surprise me if the broadcasters had started at 19.99 and the clubs have got the price down.
If you don’t want to pay it then don’t, and I don’t blame you......... but I think the club has done enough to earn a bit of grace and a bit of time to try and come up with a strategy going forward.
They still don’t know if the government are going to u turn again and allow fans back in November so refunding money and then having to take it again seems hard work and costly. Everyone needs to give the clubs and the league a chance to work out how to go forward from November onwards.
As things stand no one has lost anything from the introduction of PPV... those games weren’t on TV and aren’t part of the packages that people subscribe to, so those not wanting to pay the £14.95 haven’t lost anything as they wouldn’t have seen those games anyway.
The current situation is far from ideal and clubs are having to make decisions on the hoof to try and make football available to the fans.
No one is being asked to pay for anything more than once, everyone has a choice.
The clubs were offered an opportunity to accept an offer to show the non televised games on PPV for a 3 week period following the governments decision to stop fans coming back to see games.
Would fans have preferred it if they had refused that option ?
And before people say ..... but id have said £14.95 is too much etc or I’d have changed this ..... no one knows the options or the negotiation the clubs did with the broadcasters ... in fact judging on boxing PPV it wouldn’t surprise me if the broadcasters had started at 19.99 and the clubs have got the price down.
If you don’t want to pay it then don’t, and I don’t blame you......... but I think the club has done enough to earn a bit of grace and a bit of time to try and come up with a strategy going forward.
They still don’t know if the government are going to u turn again and allow fans back in November so refunding money and then having to take it again seems hard work and costly. Everyone needs to give the clubs and the league a chance to work out how to go forward from November onwards.
As things stand no one has lost anything from the introduction of PPV... those games weren’t on TV and aren’t part of the packages that people subscribe to, so those not wanting to pay the £14.95 haven’t lost anything as they wouldn’t have seen those games anyway.
The Wookiee
Back From The Dead
You say you don’t want your money back but then go on to say they could deduct money from what you have already paid. Isn’t that the same thing
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
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Would the naysayers be happy if the plug was pulled on PPV?
I understand the thinking behind those who are outraged/disappointed/pissed off but at least there is a choice available, so just make it. I’ll wager a large number of the near 80% saying no will either be changing their minds or watching on a dodgy stream (which carries it’s own debatable morals) come the day of the game
I understand the thinking behind those who are outraged/disappointed/pissed off but at least there is a choice available, so just make it. I’ll wager a large number of the near 80% saying no will either be changing their minds or watching on a dodgy stream (which carries it’s own debatable morals) come the day of the game
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Some fans, not the fans.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
At 17.30? Many will be at work or on their way home.
The broadcaster decides the day and time. When has an Albion match ever been played at 5.30pm on a Monday teatime?
I can imagine the admin effort of giving 23k people the option of having 14.95 deducted from their accrued current ST balance being a bit of a nightmare - as a minimum the functionality almost certainly doesn’t exist now hence this hasn’t been put forward as an option.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The admin had no problem with refunds, donations and payment holidays just three months ago. They already have our bank details.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
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So are you unhappy with the amount being charged or the kick off time? I am guessing both, so if you aren’t going to watch anyway why bother yourself with the kick off time?
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
Your ability to read my posts and decide they say whatever you want them to say is actually very impressive. Unfortunately for you in your attempt to spin everything you dislike you’ve proved my point for me.
In March we were staring down the barrel of a lockdown and seeing other major sporting leagues cancelled. And yet thousands of people; many of them who aren’t in the comfortable finical position you clearly are still decided to support the club despite the uncertainty in their future. People gave money to the club, to continue to support it whilst in the back of their head probably knowing there’s every chance they could lose their job or the season might not even go ahead. Now 7 months down the line when nobody has had even a partial refund (yet) the club are asking for even more money for a service that has been free for 6 months and have the cheek to claim that fans unhappy with the excessive fee ‘want something for nothing’
If anything other than a football club did that they’d be absolutely slaughtered for it, but because it’s a football club and people will passionately defend their club to the end of the Earth a lot of people are just shrugging their shoulders and accept it. If you paid for a takeaway online and then when the delivery driver got to your house he asked for £15 for petrol but promised you’d get a refund for your meal you’d tell him to f*ck off.
If the club used season ticket fees as basically an interest free loan to pay staff wages then I think most people would accept that, however making out the people who supported you without question at a time where there was mass uncertainty about the future are just after a freebie is an absolute c*nts move from the club and the ‘I’m fine so who cares?’ attitude of some is pretty shitty too.
True but none of those involved a third party in the way paying for ppv will.