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OK. I personally doubt that Hezbollah or Hamas will give up and make peace with Israel whether Israel does or does not blow up their pagers. My expectation is that they will seek revenge. But I will be delighted if proven wrong.

Private Eye have been mocking Israel's tendency to go in for 'smiting' for decades. Israel always responds to an attack by returning the insult many-fold. They have done this time and time again. I wasn't remotely surprised by the Israeli response to the attack from Gaza. If anything I was...

Sorry, not following your point. I was saying that it doesn't matter whether we think that the collateral deaths associated with the pager bombs means that this act is not as bad as 9/11 or is just as bad (in a game of terror top trumps). I think it means 'not as bad' but I don't think that what...

I really don't think that Mossad or Bibi deliberately allowed hundreds of Israelis to be killed and 100 to be taken hostage (with some allegedly abused and many certainly murdered) simply to justify a bit of genocide.

You are arguing from the specific (what I wrote) to the general. Of course it is a good thing that people understand global events. That is not what I was addressing (and I had in fact made some attempt to do exactly what you recommend - contextualize the events and consider comments made about...

I agree with you up to the analogy with 9/11 and October 7. Both of these were deliberate attacks on civilians. The pager attack was a specific attack on a terrorist organization, albeit with no regard whatsoever for collateral damage to innocent bystanders. As with the rest of the Israel vs...

You just reminded me why I put him on ignore. There is a point where sympathy for a genuine inability to understand things dries up.

It looked complicated to me. It's one of my things. I struggle with instructions (and filling forms). Instant antibodies. This is why my research grant income has always been meagre - I hate filling out applications.

The cheque's in the post :wink: (In all honesty, the more detailed the explanation the harder it is for me to follow. When I put something together from Ikea I spend a good hour laying out all the parts, screws, nuts, bolts, and labeling them. I looked at your post and though "I'll read that...

I just tried it and it worked! Thanks :thumbsup: (I must have twitched while typing and accidentally hit the arrow)

I'll have a play later. I am having to open latest posts to see anything. I am a technotwat, sadly. The board disappeared spontaneously yesterday as I was typing a reply to something.

Wheel loose 1-3

Come on!

From my favourite ever live album.

Stunning intro. Stunning track.

Another one that as soon as the intro starts..... and it's pure filth, which is also nice.

Twenty years ahead of its time....an intro that has the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Saw them live in 85.

Another piece of magic with a brilliant intro

Turn this up loud. The intro is brilliant and the track is magical.