Brilliant. Guessing casualty numbers and presenting them as fact can surely only de-escalate a thread as sensitive as this one. Have you considered training as a UN negotiator?Why? Because I did not know the exact figure, I guessed.
Brilliant. Guessing casualty numbers and presenting them as fact can surely only de-escalate a thread as sensitive as this one. Have you considered training as a UN negotiator?Why? Because I did not know the exact figure, I guessed.
This.German casualties outnumbered UK casualties in WW2. This does not automatically make the UK the evil agressor and the Nazis the innocent victims.
This war would stop tomorrow if Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi and Iran would accept that Israel has the right to exists and would return the surviving hostages. They could easily demand and get UK protection during the ceasefire; Lebanon already has UN troops on the ground.
OrThis war would stop tomorrow if Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi and Iran would accept that Israel has the right to exists and would return the surviving hostages. They could easily demand and get UK protection during the ceasefire; Lebanon already has UN troops on the ground.
As you can presumably, Israel doesn't need UN protection at present. They are far better armed than their attackers.Or
‘This war would stop tomorrow if Netanyahu and the Religious Zionists in his cabinet would stop killing thousands of Palestinian civilians and recognise that the Palestinians have a right to self-determination and an independent State and would return the 600+ Palestinian children being held without trial in military detention centres. Israel could easily demand and get US/UN and UK protection during the ceasefire. ‘
You can see the problem here can’t you?
So? Does that mean we can steal their land?In large swathes of the ME, Islam certainly keeps cultural progression supressed somewhat.... people living as aligned to a dogma born out of a mythical person of dubious reputation within medieval parameters for life.
In the normal ebb and flow of geo-political/ military comings and goings, ...yes, this is often the price that a defeated aggressor pays.... it is often a mistake to reward those who initiate violence and aggression... don't you think?So? Does that mean we can steal their land?
No one stole 'their' landSo? Does that mean we can steal their land?
Competing and selective versions of history incomingNo one stole 'their' land
Let me stop you there.Well we can start with nearly 50, 000 (fifty ‘king thousand) deaths in Gaza. Add on a few hundred maybe for the West Bank. Couple of thousand Lebanese, oh round it up to make it easy, 5k perhaps, and numerous Houthi’s to follow no doubt.
Now I realise that Hamas started this current shit fest but
As you can presumably, Israel doesn't need UN protection at present. They are far better armed than their attackers.
Have you a link to the 600+ children number? The biggest number I can find is 227 as at June 2024, from the "Defense for Children Palestine" website.
Number of Palestinian Children (12-17) in Israeli Military Detention
www.dci-palestine.org
No one stole 'their' land
In the normal ebb and flow of geo-political/ military comings and goings, ...yes, this is often the price that a defeated aggressor pays.... it is often a mistake to reward those who initiate violence and aggression... don't you think?
Lowest civilian to combatant death rate of any modern war
Let’s face it none of the numbers are reliable, some oft quoted are pure make believe. However there is numerous commentary on the ratios. Ultimately the answer is too many as no one wants war
What are you talking about?If Hamas proposed to the UN that they wanted a two state solution, which is de facto what they had since 2005, they would surely get it. With the strength of feeling around the world, especially within the UN, all Hamas has to do is to return the hostages, accept that Israel has the right to exist, and ask the UN to negotiate for them. Israel wouldn't be able to carry on fighting in Gaza under those circumstances.
Obviously they would need a lot of aid to rebuild the country, especially as it's unlikely that Israel will be willing to continue supplying water and power (and surprising if Gaza/Palestine would want to accept it, though most of their aid at present comes through Israel). Equally obviously there would need to be checks to ensure that humanitarian aid is spent on humanitarian support, not on rebuilding the war machine and the tunnels.
They don't care though mate, they really don't,.... they will put it down and their lives will continue as before.Who's talking about rewarding them? Obviously aggressors shouldn't be rewarded, but that doesn't mean they should have their land taken as punishment. Germany were harshly punished for their part in WW1 (not that they started it) and that punishment lead to WW2. Israel are occupying land that doesn't belong to them, and many people are rising up against them. You reap what you sow.
That's true enough - for the West Bank at least. There's a reasonable case that the actions of the Israeli settlers is comparable to that of the Islamic terrorists. The UK has acted against some of the people there: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sanctions-extremist-settlers-in-the-west-bankAnd what about the apartheid in Gaza, or the land grab on the West Bank? The west has done nothing to stop these immoral actions, should we just accept that Israel can do what it likes?
They don't care though mate, they really don't,.... they will put it down and their lives will continue as before.