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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)







raymondo

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Fantastic open letter from US military officials/commander's to Biden. Here's hoping he finally listens.

Link at end will download a .pdf (can't seem to post that here)


Such a well crafted letter. Let's hope it has some impact. That Congress directive on producing a strategy for victory had passed me by completely.

A minor shame for me is that all signatories are 'former/retired ' but I guess that's the nature of things.

Thanks for sharing 👍🤞🏻👍
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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I forgot to highlight something I read yesterday.

It was Prof. Michael Clarke who appears on the Sky news reports.

Scroll down to near the bottom at 21 Aug 13:24.


'Asked how Russia is responding to Ukraine's invasion of its territory, Prof Clarke said Moscow's forces "are still at sixes and sevens over what is happening in the Kursk region in this incursion".

He explains: "They don't seem to have been able to sort out exactly who is in charge."

Prof Clarke says there are "three different forces" on the ground in Kursk, and adds this is "one of the reasons why they're not doing very well".

He says: "So it's apparent that 16 days after this incursion began the Russians are still struggling to create a coherent response... it's partly because Putin operates a sort of medieval court in the Kremlin and when it's struck with a crisis like this people just vie with each other to be closer to the king."

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If you want another sign (apart from the propagandist clip) that all is not well in the Kremlin command and control structure, look no further.

After their country has been invaded, 16 days later, they still don't know who is in charge of the Kursk crisis.
 


raymondo

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I also saw this yesterday, on Denys, sorry...just a screen grab for now, I haven't chased down the WSJ article; but it suggests this added to Kursk's vulnerability.
Screenshot_2024-08-22-14-51-49-46_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg
 


GT49er

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I forgot to highlight something I read yesterday.

It was Prof. Michael Clarke who appears on the Sky news reports.

Scroll down to near the bottom at 21 Aug 13:24.


'Asked how Russia is responding to Ukraine's invasion of its territory, Prof Clarke said Moscow's forces "are still at sixes and sevens over what is happening in the Kursk region in this incursion".

He explains: "They don't seem to have been able to sort out exactly who is in charge."

Prof Clarke says there are "three different forces" on the ground in Kursk, and adds this is "one of the reasons why they're not doing very well".

He says: "So it's apparent that 16 days after this incursion began the Russians are still struggling to create a coherent response... it's partly because Putin operates a sort of medieval court in the Kremlin and when it's struck with a crisis like this people just vie with each other to be closer to the king."

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If you want another sign (apart from the propagandist clip) that all is not well in the Kremlin command and control structure, look no further.

After their country has been invaded, 16 days later, they still don't know who is in charge of the Kursk crisis.
The bit about the new Ukrainian troops refusing to fight is rather worrying.
 




Eric the meek

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The bit about the new Ukrainian troops refusing to fight is rather worrying.
I saw it as well, although I didn't read the article. I have done so now.

It appears to be a few new recruits who refuse to shoot the enemy. A few are walking off the battlefield. I remember reading something a while back, around the way Ukraine teaches recruits on the job. It may be linked to the fact that new recruits get little or no basic training. The reason given was that Ukraine cannot spare the experienced troops to carry out the training.

Not ideal. Could western nations undertake basic training responsibilities?
 


fly high

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If fire fighters can't cope call on God. :ROFLMAO:

From Sky News
The state of the fire on Monday  - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place

The state of the fire on Monday - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place
Yesterday, Russian Orthodox priests brought an icon to the fire to try and help firefighters tame the blaze
 








GT49er

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If fire fighters can't cope call on God. :ROFLMAO:

From Sky News
The state of the fire on Monday  - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place

The state of the fire on Monday - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place
Yesterday, Russian Orthodox priests brought an icon to the fire to try and help firefighters tame the blaze
Try and help? They might as well have chucked it on the fire!
 






raymondo

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Just after the Kursk invasion began, I saw Margarita Simonyan and her husband were having a 'prayer day'.

After all that Russia has done, the elite believe that God will be their salvation. That says it all really.
Similar to Trump (and many other 'leaders' and uber wealthy) ...say/pretend you've got religion and you are less touchable.
 


raymondo

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I saw it as well, although I didn't read the article. I have done so now.

It appears to be a few new recruits who refuse to shoot the enemy. A few are walking off the battlefield. I remember reading something a while back, around the way Ukraine teaches recruits on the job. It may be linked to the fact that new recruits get little or no basic training. The reason given was that Ukraine cannot spare the experienced troops to carry out the training.

Not ideal. Could western nations undertake basic training responsibilities?
Could be training, could also be passivist feelings from some... even after what Russia's done.
 


Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
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A number of news sources are reporting overnight drone attacks on Moscow - the largest so far. All were destroyed according to Russia, but these attacks aren’t silent or without damage / debris, so the civilian population will start to feel the war getting closer. As we’ve speculated before, it seems strange the drones can travel so far undetected or destroyed before reaching Moscow, unless of course they are being launched from within Russia. And Ukrainian reach for its drones and missiles is increasing the further it moves into Kursk.
 




raymondo

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If fire fighters can't cope call on God. :ROFLMAO:

From Sky News
The state of the fire on Monday  - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place

The state of the fire on Monday - the day after the attack is believed to have taken place
Yesterday, Russian Orthodox priests brought an icon to the fire to try and help firefighters tame the blaze
A recent update from Denys suggests the fire has now reached the tanks of aviation fuel and one has exploded,💥. Firefighters have withdrawn.
Hoping that's all true 🤞🏻😎.
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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A recent update from Denys suggests the fire has now reached the tanks of aviation fuel and one has exploded,💥. Firefighters have withdrawn.
Hoping that's all true 🤞🏻😎.
Together with the direct hit on the Crono Trader, the fuel ferry docked at Kavkaz port near Kerch, Russia has taken a double whammy this week.

And the fact that Russia was using the ferry and not the Kerch bridge to transport fuel, is also worthy of note. They are expecting an attack on the bridge, so they are using alternatives, which seem to be more vulnerable. (y)
 


raymondo

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Together with the direct hit on the Crono Trader, the fuel ferry docked at Kavkaz port near Kerch, Russia has taken a double whammy this week.

And the fact that Russia was using the ferry and not the Kerch bridge to transport fuel, is also worthy of note. They are expecting an attack on the bridge, so they are using alternatives, which seem to be more vulnerable. (y)
Yes, Denys D has lots of detail on the ferry hit, and the possibility of a hit on the bridge. I wonder if they're avoiding transport of fuel via the bridge, because a direct hit on a fuel train would damage the bridge even more 🤔.
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Yes, Denys D has lots of detail on the ferry hit, and the possibility of a hit on the bridge. I wonder if they're avoiding transport of fuel via the bridge, because a direct hit on a fuel train would damage the bridge even more 🤔.
A while ago I wondered if the bridge were worth more to Ukraine if it were left intact.

When it does go, it will be hugely symbolic.
 








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