[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

Kinky Gerbil said:

This is the tricky part

If a certain group are committing crimes, you should be able to target that group more?

I think we are at the point where hurt feelings are the least of our worries.

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birthofanorange said:

To be fair, the far right are indeed simpletons, and they really should be given short shrift.

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birthofanorange said:

No, one can be 'right' without being 'far right' - the same applies to the 'left'.

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wellquickwoody said:

Define the far right?

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Pevenseagull said:

Can I have a go?


Xenophobic, chauvanist, mouth breathing, violent, thick ****s who can't handle their beer.

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Guinness Boy said:

You just won't say it will you. You'll skirt round, insinuate and blether but won't actually say what you mean for fear of either sanction, ridicule or factual responses.

A huge irony that much of your NSC career was spent ironically quoting rap lyrics with the 'N' word in you now seem to want to call a spade a 'thing that could possibly be used to dig up some vegetables'.

Absolutely classic far right WUMerry.

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Krept & Konan, S1lva, M1llionz (Ft. Morrisson) – Olé (We Are England)

South London rap duo Krept & Konan team up with Birmingham rapper M1llionz and East London rappers S1lva and Morrisson for the England’s official anthem for their UEFA EURO 2020

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Dibdab said:

Reform and the likes of Robinson are effective because the main parties are doing nothing to really help the working or middle classes. Few people below the "Rich" class are better off than they were 10 years ago and no one really seems to be doing anything to really change the mass transfer of wealth away from normal people to the mega rich and corporations. Politicians really dont seem interested in serving for the benefit of the public. Public services are in tatters and all we really hear is that yet again austerity type measures are required. Add the flames of mass illegal immigration to the fire and what we are seeing now is the result. Things are only going to get worse unfortunately. Oh and WW111 is imminent.

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cunning fergus said:

For the avoidance of doubt…

A) I understand that this message board is not a truly public sphere and what is posted online has consequences, not just for me but also it’s owner. I am always respectful of that position and in my view I have never abused the “contract” that being a member of NSC requires.

B) I don’t have an “NSC career” I have a moderate history of posting over the last decade and I certainly have no concerns of being ridiculed or sanctioned by posters on here with histories of literally tens of thousands of posts.

That whole statement conveys the paradigm that you look through when moderating on here doesn’t it? Seriously, and I mean seriously, do you honestly think I give a sh*t what someone with 30,000 plus posts on here thinks of me or my views?

Individuals with that volume of posting history screams out that they don’t have much else going on in their lives, for them being on here is like a kind of tragic addiction.

C) I know you love innuendo, so for carity I’ve attached below the full lyric sheet to the OFFICIAL England song for Euros 2021 for you. Verse 4 you will note, as sung by Millionz clearly has the word “niggas” in it. In other verses, you will note references to mysogny, violence and drugs.

Krept & Konan, S1lva, M1llionz (Ft. Morrisson) – Olé (We Are England)

South London rap duo Krept & Konan team up with Birmingham rapper M1llionz and East London rappers S1lva and Morrisson for the England’s official anthem for their UEFA EURO 2020

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It continues to amaze me that the new politically correct blazers at the FA never checked the lyrics out before it was released.

The fact I received a ban for accurately quoting its lyrics, and/or other offensive lyrics from its creators (Krept and Konan) in posts on that subject didn’t mean I was being racist, it meant the moderating team (in a round a bout way) must have agreed with me.…….in my view it was a ban I can be proud of.

Have a good day kidder.

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Triggaaar said:

The events I mentioned are the events of the last week (which this thread is about). If you want to talk about previous acts of violence too, that's fine by me. What would you like to say about the acts of violence in this country in general?



You said 'events like this'. It was a knife attack so I thought you meant knife attacks. So what sort of events were you referring to?





You're not making sense. You just said that for you it's an act of violence by the mentally ill, and then you've contradicted yourself and said the root cause is not mental health.



So what conclusion will they/you draw? I asked you what the root cause of all the stabbings were. Do you have an answer?




Could you quote some of the posts on this football forum that say that Huw Edwards was treated cruelly, when he was mentally ill? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just thought people here were against Huw and his crimes.

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Guinness Boy said:

1) “I’m not going to say it, I’m going to say some other stuff instead”

2) You know Bozza and would presumably understand that a) he’s not going to pick a moderator who doesn’t give a shit about NSC and b) despite that you’ll be treated the same as any other user,

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wellquickwoody said:

When a significant minority group is marginalised it is done with great risks involved. Terms like facist, racist, Neanderthal, moron, knucklehead, scum etc etc are banded around freely without much thought as to their accuracy or their effect. Whilst offering no support in anyway to the actions of those who rioted rather than remembering in Southport, or those who attempt to trash mosques, synagogues and police stations, it should be acknowledged that many people on the right (not far, or extreme) feel utterly disenfranchised. It is what led to Brexit, and it seems those guilty of the marginalisation still have their heads stuck in the sand.

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wellquickwoody said:

There has been a major increase in the number of foreign nationals arriving on British shores in the last fifteen years, whether they are legitimate migrants, asylum seekers or whatever. When people who have felt uneasy about this (be it fear of change or economic reasons in areas like Lincolnshire) have voiced concerns they have been dismissed as poorly educated, ill informed or worse by those who feel morally superior. Even after the Brexit result there has been a constant diatribe of insulting and patronising comment towards those who voted for it, constantly blaming them for nearly all of the problems in the UK. So even when in an electoral majority many of the voters feel vilified and ignored by the so called educated classes and politicians.

Significant minority groups need yo be listened to, but as Brexit showed, this group are more than a ’minority’. They are an undeniable factor in British culture and politics. Forget Farage and Robinson, they are just opportunists jumping onto a passing bandwagon and then trying to take the reins. Serious politicians should be listening to the genuine concerns that a sizeable part of the electorate have. This does not mean granting every persons every wish, but more of gaining a feel of how to get the less reactive and inflammatory folk who feel disenfranchised back into the fold of mainstream politics.

Basically it would be foolish to continue to dismiss and ignore the feelings of a sizeable chunk of the population as it leads to what is happening now. Less inflammatory and dismissive language is required from all sides in an attempt to find common goals. This needs to happen in big politics, but also should start being practised by the community at large, especially online. Even those in positions of so called authority should perhaps ’moderate’ their tone.

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wellquickwoody said:

You are joking, please?

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Bozza said:

These utter knobbers really should be heading to their local hospitals for their protests/riots/arson attacks.

If my recent experiences in both Worthing and Crawley hospitals are representative of the country as a whole, then targeting a hospital will give allow them to get to as many immigrants as possible in a single hit.

Of course, that most wonderful of British institutions, the NHS, would be in utter collapse without this army of wonderful, compassionate and caring souls looking after us all, but that would surely be a small price to pay.

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Baldseagull said:

It's a sick joke, we had a financial crash in 2008, in part because of deregulation of banking practices. The Bankers get bailed out, the rest of us pay with austerity. The English Nationalists try and succeed in blaming the EU for its regulations and open borders to immigration as the reason we are skint. We leave the EU, we get more red tape and more immigration, and more skint. We change the government, and within a month, English Nationalists are calling for a change of government, blaming asylum seekers for the murder of kids, by a bloke born in Cardiff.
Its f***ing tragic, in several ways.

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Dibdab said:

Reform and the likes of Robinson are effective because the main parties are doing nothing to really help the working or middle classes. Few people below the "Rich" class are better off than they were 10 years ago and no one really seems to be doing anything to really change the mass transfer of wealth away from normal people to the mega rich and corporations. Politicians really dont seem interested in serving for the benefit of the public. Public services are in tatters and all we really hear is that yet again austerity type measures are required. Add the flames of mass illegal immigration to the fire and what we are seeing now is the result. Things are only going to get worse unfortunately. Oh and WW111 is imminent.

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wellquickwoody said:

So if someone is most of the above, but can handle their beer, does that make them less ‘far’? And is being violent an exclusive trait of the FAR right, not may be a thing the ‘a bit right crowd‘ can do? The definition you have used seems a bit, well, thick. Does that make you far right?

It has become a bullshit term used by those who consider anything or anyone not socialist, to be a Nazi. Utterly meaningless really. But dangerous as it alienates so many.



L.
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cunning fergus said:

I try not to spend too much time on here, I’ve just done one post so I can’t respond in full like you. Sorry about that.

Suffice to say, I don’t trust the Government/establishment narratives on these violent knife attacks, because they don’t make sense. I can remember IRA violence back when I was younger where they engaged in brutal murders where victims including innocent children, but they were never mentally ill they were violent terrorists.

Back then of course we never had IRA attacks PLUS murderous knife attacks on innocent children by the mentally ill.

Perhaps it’s Thatcher’s fault?

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