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[News] Just Stop Oil
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worthingseagull123
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- May 5, 2012
- 2,669
For now.
worthingseagull123
Well-known member
- May 5, 2012
- 2,669
Yes.
Enough is enough when it comes to disruption from doomsday cults.
The sentences are proportionate and in the public interest.
worthingseagull123
Well-known member
- May 5, 2012
- 2,669
No. These idiots at JustStopOil want no more fossil fuel use after 2030.
No air travel. Few cars. No shipping etc.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Cheeky Monkey
Well-known member
- Jul 17, 2003
- 23,634
This. Ridiculous decision.
Leaving punishment in the hands of the people ALWAYS lead to diabolical torture. No exceptions.
You can see already in this thread how horny the majority are for tough authorianism and harsher punishments towards everyone. Its the nature of some humans.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,446
It'll be overturned/ reduced on appeal and hopefully they will be a bit less dickheady and a few Daily Express readers will die of a heart attack.
Legally the judge is correct though?
I agree, But that isn't really the point. Even Thatcher backed off the idea of a referendum on capital punishment. Albeit I'm minded that if Johnson had hung on to his job, such a referendum would have been his wheeze for securing another 5 years. It will of course absolutely be part of Farage's platform.
Back to the original post, it is quite clear that an element in Just Stop Oil and related groups would be sanguine if, for example, someone died because they blocked an ambulance. Collateral damage. I cannot accept that private citizens have the right to make such choices.
Meanwhile, and this is the main point, if this lot had been let off it would have been a green light for anyone to take similar action over whatever pet cause had triggered them, whether valid or merely meretricious. That's mob rule.
What we need in this country is cool calm measured leadership, not a series of wheezes cooked up by a cabal of entitled oafs. Some leadership that we can see is operating for the greater good rather than for cock and wallet. Then decent people may stop taking things into their own hands. Early days but we may be entering calmer leadership waters.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Legally he is, but morally?
Look up his sentence fo a paedophile last year.
What about if they held up an FA semi final to the point of postponement that Brighton were playing in? Well?
Correct, but for some people it appears that only part of the law applies when it doesn’t suit your cause.
A judge hears every aspect and minuscule detail of a case. He/she also follows strict licensing guidelines. His/her job is to follow the law, not to make deviations based on a ‘moral view’ which will always be at least partly subjective.
If a terrorist bombs a pub and people are killed, a Judge cannot take a view that in his/her view the ends justified the means because he/she agreed with the cause and therefore morally’ the terrorist should be treated in a certain benign way.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I'm not a fan of JSO's tactics but I do support their aims. What is most worrying, and should worry everyone, is what even the UN have pointed out - that the right to protest has been eroded so much that draconion sentences like this are even possible. All thanks to the previous government who hated protest.
As for the judge directing the jury not to consider the reasons they committed this crime - WTAF
? Of course the reason for anyone committing any crime should be considered. If I'd been on the jury and a judge directed that I would just vote not guilty straight away.
Also remember they have been given prison time just for discussing organising a disruptive protest !
As for the judge directing the jury not to consider the reasons they committed this crime - WTAF
? Of course the reason for anyone committing any crime should be considered. If I'd been on the jury and a judge directed that I would just vote not guilty straight away.Also remember they have been given prison time just for discussing organising a disruptive protest !
This thread should be merged with the 'Just Stop Oil' thread.