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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Starmer in talks with Germany for closer links with the EU. (allegedly). Don't shoot me, I'm no expert. Is this good or bad? Somehow it feels bad, but if it's a better relationship, surely it's good? Or will he just be diluting the acrimoniously won benefits of Brexit. Whatever they may be.
No. We should be declaring war on Germany. And after that, Australia

 




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Calling @WATFORD zero .

Can only be a benefit, shirley. Fighting crime, science/tech collaboration, setting young people free from being restricted to the one country of work (works in both directions), easing red tape for business with that vast market 20 miles away.
But didn't we leave the EU to put and end to all this unpatriotic nonsense? ???

I never want to hear the words 'Netherlands' and 'Spain' again. Unless it has a 'nil' after it.
 




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Cotton Socks

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An utter shambles, I didn't even cut them evenly. Those are the best of a bad bunch, they're vegetarian as well. Lunchbox shame, I'll redeem myself tomorrow and buy some no filling cheese and onion rolls from Asda. 🤦‍♀️
 


Super Steve Earle

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Calling @WATFORD zero .

Can only be a benefit, shirley. Fighting crime, science/tech collaboration, setting young people free from being restricted to the one country of work (works in both directions), easing red tape for business with that vast market 20 miles away.
Don't call @WATFORD zero on my account. The only poster I have on ignore :ROFLMAO:
 








Mo Gosfield

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Absolutely fabulous we have a government that I think we can trust
You'll learn.
I have over the years. It's the hope that kills you. You are placing your trust in a group of people who have never had to deal with matters of state. It's an ugly, moveable feast, putting ordinary people under intense pressure. Good intentions get forced out of the window and replaced by compromise.
Most of them have no experience of juggling billions of pounds. Instead of behaving like the business community who are continually forced into saving money, they know they have the power of direct and indirect taxation to raise revenue.
If you trust any politicians you will end up disappointed. They can never deliver what they promise and their hands are tied by controlling interest. It always ends in disappointment, scandal and human failing.
 


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You'll learn.
I have over the years. It's the hope that kills you. You are placing your trust in a group of people who have never had to deal with matters of state. It's an ugly, moveable feast, putting ordinary people under intense pressure. Good intentions get forced out of the window and replaced by compromise.
Most of them have no experience of juggling billions of pounds. Instead of behaving like the business community who are continually forced into saving money, they know they have the power of direct and indirect taxation to raise revenue.
If you trust any politicians you will end up disappointed. They can never deliver what they promise and their hands are tied by controlling interest. It always ends in disappointment, scandal and human failing.
I think it is preferable to have a government that on the face if it wants to serve, rather than one that wants simply to enrich itself and it's chums. After that, it's down to events as you rightly recognize.
 














Sid and the Sharknados

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Now been ruled out by Home Secretary Yvette Cooper’s office


ID cards are either totally ineffective, a reproduction of something almost everybody basically already has (i.e. a means to demonstrate your identity), or they're a tax on going outside. In all likelihood they're a combination of all three. In any case, I'm glad they've been ruled out.

It's the sort of thing governments become more keen on the longer they're in power as they run out of they're own ideas and competent ministers, and start getting captured by the organisations they're supposed to have oversight of.
 


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Herr Tubthumper

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I was going to make a joke about being able to get a better breakfast in Wetherspoons, but I'm much more interested in what the things on top of the black pudding are?
White pudding! Racial harmony right there on my breakfast plate. f*** you Farage.
 
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Uh_huh_him

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Not easy at all. Their demands cannot be afforded nor can the precedent be set, whilst Starmer also needs to demonstrate that he is strong enough to stand up to the unions. However, the doctors will be expecting to get close to the deal they want now the tories have been routed.

If, but equally importantly how, Starmer resolves this dispute could define the next 5 years for, from his perspective, better or for worse.

No pressure then!

Spending can always be afforded.
Agree with the second statement, but the magic money tree is always available when it suits a government's political agenda.
 




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