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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***







Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
54,655
Faversham


Are people honestly shocked about Reform?
More worried. I get the frustration people have (although a lot of them voted for Tories in 2019 , so serves them right!) Over the chaos of past few years. However, people will say it is a protest yet they are voting for a racist and populist private company. I find that worrying.
 




happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,114
Eastbourne
If you look at what is about to happen in France, what is about to happen in the UK is no surprise, frankly.

Wes Streeting just saying that “Labour have reconnected with the people.” I don’t get a sense of that at all tbh. I get more a sense that the Tory party has imploded.
Doesn't feel like 1997 mk2 does it ?
Then there seemed to be the sentiment that "It has to be Blair", now its more like "Anyone but Tory".
Starmer has got a lot of work to do to win people over.
 






US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,231
Cleveland, OH
Just said the same here.

Looking at the surge in far right politics across Europe, Reform getting a foothold here is a worrying prospect.
As I said to a friend of mine the other day, the far right was very popular in the 1930's but it had mostly disappeared by the mid-40s. Not sure what happened in between. Probably nothing to worry about...
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
56,535
Back in Sussex
As I mentioned earlier 2001 had 59% turnout,(2005 was 61%) but now we have voter ID so don't be surprised if it's less than that
Just seems to fly in the face of suggestions that it's been a bumper turnout this time.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
54,655
Faversham
That Vine graphic on BBC is awesome
 




ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,576
Just far enough away from LDC
Just seems to fly in the face of suggestions that it's been a bumper turnout this time.
I think queues are caused by the voter ID issue. That will have taken c5% off plus students gone home and a result not in doubt for money
 


So people are saying it looks like Labour have got 36% of the vote, 4% lower than Corbyn got in 2017. They are not popular and will get even more unpopular pretty quickly from this low base when people figure out they have no plan except sitting on their arses in office. What a fraudulent election system we have that this is a “landslide”
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,375
Playing snooker
Doesn't feel like 1997 mk2 does it ?
Then there seemed to be the sentiment that "It has to be Blair", now its more like "Anyone but Tory".
Starmer has got a lot of work to do to win people over.
100% this. The paradox of winning a massive majority but with virtually zero enthusiasm outside the core support.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
54,655
Faversham
Reform spokesman on BBC says 'FPTP is broken' 'and that's why we want PR'.

Come and defend him, electoral reformers. There is some sea near Faversham and I shall gladly direct you to it.
 


Nobby

Well-known member
Sep 29, 2007
2,866
Anger with “MP’s all being the same” means less people voting
Reform taking huge swathes of Con vote share.
And some Labour

Wonderful to see the headline exit poll

But worried about the future of our wonderful country
In five years time, the Snake Oil salesman could really be a huge influence

Hopefully he will have something better to do by then.
 




Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,700
Almería
So people are saying it looks like Labour have got 36% of the vote, 4% lower than Corbyn got in 2017. They are not popular and will get even more unpopular pretty quickly from this low base when people figure out they have no plan except sitting on their arses in office. What a fraudulent election system we have that this is a “landslide”

Interesting. Got a source for this?
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,576
Just far enough away from LDC
So people are saying it looks like Labour have got 36% of the vote, 4% lower than Corbyn got in 2017. They are not popular and will get even more unpopular pretty quickly from this low base when people figure out they have no plan except sitting on their arses in office. What a fraudulent election system we have that this is a “landslide”
And what did he get in 2019? Seriously with so many more parties competitive nobody was going to get near 40%+

Of course people have been saying that for days (I for one) but you wouldn't have read that
 


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