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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***



Weststander

Weststander

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chickens said:
I have a big bag of crisps, a full jar of coffee and a small bottle of scotch.

Sadly I can’t keep myself in the manner of some here, but I will be having a small celebratory dram if we do indeed see the back of these shysters.

I fear the fact that twenty percent of the UK population seem to blindly just vote Conservative regardless of what they say or do, so am not yet convinced that we will be seeing the sort of result some polls are predicting.

I’ve done my democratic duty, will head to bed at nine with the alarm set for two AM. Speak to those of you making a night of it and still sober enough to type then.
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20% = the worst ever result, about 1/4 of the 2019 seats. The UK has huge numbers of wealthy to very comfortable folk, also pensioners living with fantastic income, who all want to preserve that. IHT and CGT are loathed, Reeves will target that in time. I wonder if council tax with ramp up for expensive homes. Also BTL landlords know Labour will devise punitive laws like the SNP.
 






chickens

chickens

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Weststander said:
20% = the worst ever result, about 1/4 of the 2019 seats. The UK has huge numbers of wealthy to very comfortable folk, also pensioners living with fantastic income, who all want to preserve that. IHT and CGT are loathed, Reeves will target that in time. I wonder if council tax with ramp up for expensive homes. Also BTL landlords know Labour will devise punitive laws like the SNP.
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I understand that, but it’s still a disappointing way to use a vote, with the ladder drawn up after themselves, slyly ensuring that polices are put in place that deny others the same opportunities they had themselves.

We’re all just passing through, the idea is that we leave something worthwhile behind us.

(I’m not making a personal accusation here btw, I’ve had nothing but positive interactions with you in my time on the board)
 


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Bodian

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Weststander said:
20% = the worst ever result, about 1/4 of the 2019 seats. The UK has huge numbers of wealthy to very comfortable folk, also pensioners living with fantastic income, who all want to preserve that. IHT and CGT are loathed, Reeves will target that in time. I wonder if council tax with ramp up for expensive homes. Also BTL landlords know Labour will devise punitive laws like the SNP.
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Just been told by the father-in-law that having Labour in will mean we'll have 'to pay more'. Firstly, we pointed out that we don't have a problem with paying taxes for the general good. Secondly, don't think he believed us that taxes are currently higher than they have ever been in my lifetime and Labour haven't been in power.
 


Weststander

Weststander

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chickens said:
I understand that, but it’s still a disappointing way to use a vote, with the ladder drawn up after themselves, slyly ensuring that polices are put in place that deny others the same opportunities they had themselves.

We’re all just passing through, the idea is that we leave something worthwhile behind us.

(I’m not making a personal accusation here btw, I’ve had nothing but positive interactions with you in my time on the board)
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People in the main prioritise their family’s finances to wealth. Elections other than 2019 are decided on personal finance and financial prospects.

A good example would be; people seem dead against paying towards nursing homes out of home equity (big £ numbers in southern England), “because 100% of it belongs to my offspring”. Folk of all political colours talk the virtuous talk, but generally only want other groupings to tax more tax. The opposite of Denmark/Finland/Sweden where income tax rates for everyone but the poorest are far greater than in the UK. To pay for their generous safety net and parental pay.
 






WATFORD zero

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Weststander said:
People in the main prioritise their family’s finances to wealth. Elections other than 2019 are decided on personal finance and financial prospects.

A good example would be; people seem dead against paying towards nursing homes out of home equity (big £ numbers in southern England), “because 100% of it belongs to my offspring”. Folk of all political colours talk the virtuous talk, but generally only want other groupings to tax more tax. The opposite of Denmark/Finland/Sweden where income tax rates for everyone but the poorest are far greater than in the UK. To pay for their generous safety net and parental pay.
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I didn't come here for a lecture in communism :wink:
 






kevo

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Disappointed no-one has so far asked the most important question....

When can we all start drinking?!
 


WATFORD zero

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I'm just having dinner, but I have had a beer and a couple of glasses of wine already, so there may be a change to plan with a tactical kip between 10.30/11 and 2.30 ???
 


pasty

pasty

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Jul 5, 2003
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I’m avoiding alcohol I think. Get on the beer and I’ll be snoring by midnight. That may change however as certain results come in 😂
 




kevo

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WATFORD zero said:
I'm just having dinner, but I have had a beer and a couple of glasses of wine already, so there may be a change to plan with a tactical kip between 10.30/11 and 2.30 ???
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I was thinking of doing the same, but can't trust myself to wake up again. Going for the all-night burn, I think.

I have a monster bag of Doritos, Punk IPA, Cava and emergency Jaffa Cakes.
 


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HyperTony

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May 20, 2023
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Big filthy Harvester dinner - Check

Plain Pringles
Jaffa Cakes
Unsalted nuts and fruit mix
Bag of Toffees
2 bananas
Bottle of tonic in the fridge
Rose in the wine fridge (oh yes)
White in the wine fridge (oh yes)
Cheeky can of Porter
Bought and paid for - Check
Pre-match constitutional- Check

I am match ready
Let the blood letting begin
 


nwgull

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I’m lifting weights in the gym right now. Will be voting in about an hour and home in time for exit poll and start of an evening of fun in front of telly (probably C4).
 




WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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kevo said:
I was thinking of doing the same, but can't trust myself to wake up again. Going for the all-night burn, I think.

I have a monster bag of Doritos, Punk IPA, Cava and emergency Jaffa Cakes.
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Thank god you got the emergency Jaffa Cakes. Things could have got messy otherwise :wink:
 


happypig

happypig

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May 23, 2009
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kevo said:
Disappointed no-one has so far asked the most important question....

When can we all start drinking?!
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I've got a lot to do tomorrow so will only be having a couple but I'm not going to start until the first "Big name" has gone. Quite possibly as early as 12:15 when Tory Chairman Richard Holden fails to win in Basildon and Billericay.
 




Weststander

Weststander

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WATFORD zero said:
I'm just having dinner, but I have had a beer and a couple of glasses of wine already, so there may be a change to plan with a tactical kip between 10.30/11 and 2.30 ???
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You’re lucky to be able to turn on/off naps like that. I’ve always had too active a mind. Pre clubbing catnaps here or overseas were difficult for me.
 




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Weststander said:
You’re lucky to be able to turn on/off naps like that. I’ve always had too active a mind. Pre clubbing catnaps here or overseas were difficult for me.
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Same here. Never been able to nap during the day, no matter how tired after an all-nighter or whatever!

As for tonight... Hazy IPA in the fridge and a bottle of red.. will pace the red though or I'll be asleep by 11..
 


chickens

chickens

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Weststander said:
People in the main prioritise their family’s finances to wealth. Elections other than 2019 are decided on personal finance and financial prospects.

A good example would be; people seem dead against paying towards nursing homes out of home equity (big £ numbers in southern England), “because 100% of it belongs to my offspring”. Folk of all political colours talk the virtuous talk, but generally only want other groupings to tax more tax. The opposite of Denmark/Finland/Sweden where income tax rates for everyone but the poorest are far greater than in the UK. To pay for their generous safety net and parental pay.
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That’s true, and to an extent I can’t blame them for that.

However, when people look at (for example) the outright corruption and incompetence, coupled with the outright lying of the incumbents, then surely there’s more to voting than a purely financial incentive?

We have (to my mind) built a deeply unhappy and unhealthy society, that teaches that might makes right, and any means justifies the end. Both issues that society as a concept was initially founded to try and prevent.

Do you genuinely believe that there is no moral component to voting, is it all about the pounds and pence?
 


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