[Albion] Zonal Marking at Corners

[Mayonaise]

We seem to like Zonal marking at corner but is it really working for us?

I am no expert of this but do know that in Dunk, Duffy and Webster, we have three of the best defenders in the PL when it comes to the arial battles. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me then that we just stand still and try to compete from a standing position against attackers having a run up.

I am happy for somebody to explain the theories of Zonal marking and what we should be doing better as this isn't working for us IMHO

 

[beorhthelm]

never seems to work, or rather when opposition scores it was obvious the zones didnt work. it gives advantage to the attacker. but coaches keep using it so there must be some technical advantages i dont understand.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Too small a zone for zonal marking, and too many distractions going on for it to ever be truly effective. IMHO, like

 

[Icy Gull]

TB could do worse than turn to NSC for the next coach when Potter leaves

 

[Baker lite]

Not a fan of zonal marking.
Mark your man and take responsibility.


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[Sarisbury Seagull]

We seem to like Zonal marking at corner but is it really working for us?

I am no expert of this but do know that in Dunk, Duffy and Webster, we have three of the best defenders in the PL when it comes to the arial battles. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me then that we just stand still and try to compete from a standing position against attackers having a run up.

I am happy for somebody to explain the theories of Zonal marking and what we should be doing better as this isn't working for us IMHO

Who says it isn’t working for us?

The goal yesterday should have been disallowed and last season we conceded the 9th most from set pieces in the PL, less than Man Utd, Leicester and the same as Liverpool. And that despite having Ryan for the first few months of last season. We were clearly better at defending set pieces once Sanchez was a regular.

Not exactly bad.

 

[CaptainDaveUK]

I think it’s a combination of both zonal and man marking / blocking, which is probably the best tactic overall, although teams will always concede from corners whatever tactic is employed. Yesterday we could have done with BDB on the far post. UTA.

 

[Swansman]

never seems to work, or rather when opposition scores it was obvious the zones didnt work. it gives advantage to the attacker. but coaches keep using it so there must be some technical advantages i dont understand.

When zonal marking doesnt work, people blame the system. When man marking fails, people blame the individual but forget that he as well is operating in a system (man marking).

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

TB could do worse than turn to NSC for the next coach when Potter leaves

So. Any thoughts on the effectiveness of zonal marking at corners?

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Isn't Maupay not going for the ball but just getting in the way obstruction? Zonal should be making sure you get the ball if it lands in you area not stopping the opposition getting to the contact area.

 

[Icy Gull]

So. Any thoughts on the effectiveness of zonal marking at corners?

Given how few goals we conceded in comparison to others around us last season I don’t think conceding goals is our biggest problem

There is no right or wrong in zonal or man marking as far as I can see and I don’t feel that strongly about it, but if pushing people out of the way with two hands is not a foul these days I suggest we push opposition forwards to the ground when they are in our box starting next Saturday. Do I get the job?

 

[Icy Gull]

Isn't Maupay not going for the ball but just getting in the way obstruction? Zonal should be making sure you get the ball if it lands in you area not stopping the opposition getting to the contact area.

A few have expressed a similar view on this but I don’t think having to get out of the way of someone running at you is part of the laws is it? Why did Maupay have to get out of the way because Tarkowski wanted the space he was in? Don’t get it at all, it’s not like he moved to block the run which would have been obstruction.

Is running with the ball straight through someone permitted? Pretty sure it’s not, you have go around them don’t you?

 

[Worried Man Blues]

A few have expressed a similar view on this but I don’t think having to get out of the way of someone running at you is part of the laws is it? Why did Maupay have to get out of the way because Tarkowski wanted the space he was in? Don’t get it at all, it’s not like he moved to block the run which would have been obstruction.

Is running with the ball straight through someone permitted? Pretty sure it’s not, you have go around them don’t you?

In my book (which isn't important!) if he isn't even looking at the ball he is just stopping another player it could easily be obstruction and could risk a free kick in a tricky position. If that isn't obstruction I am not sure what is, if it is still a law anyway!

 

[Icy Gull]

In my book (which isn't important!) if he isn't even looking at the ball he is just stopping another player it could easily be obstruction and could risk a free kick in a tricky position. If that isn't obstruction I am not sure what is, if it is still a law anyway!

So if Tarkowski hadn’t scored you’d have been OK with the ref giving a penalty?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I think it’s a combination of both zonal and man marking / blocking, which is probably the best tactic overall, although teams will always concede from corners whatever tactic is employed. Yesterday we could have done with BDB on the far post. UTA.

Probably not when they play us….

 

[Worried Man Blues]

So if Tarkowski hadn’t scored you’d have been OK with the ref giving a penalty?

No but an indirect free kick would have been a possibility, having said thaat I am guessing obstruction is still a law!

 

[The Tactician]

https://albionanalytics1.medium.com...ing-brightons-dead-ball-dilemmas-41a675c8aaeb

 

[Icy Gull]

Wrong thread

 

[raymondo]

Isn't Maupay not going for the ball but just getting in the way obstruction? Zonal should be making sure you get the ball if it lands in you area not stopping the opposition getting to the contact area.

This is my concern too. Maupay obstructed (foul?), Tarkovsky pushed (foul!), VAR (check which way the winds blowing....naah). There could be many more inconsistent decisions this season.

 

[The Fits]

It was poor defending. We defending appallingly from set pieces in the first half. It happens.