[Politics] Zarah Sultana MP on the wrong track

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Its a bit stupid of her, to not check her facts before tweeting.

But on the scale of things, it's hardly Dominic Raab not understanding that the port of Dover was important for UK trade.

Just a guess but has Potty tried to start another anti-labour thread?

Good luck with that

 

[CheeseRolls]

It isn't difficult to tell the difference between sidelined pending someone Matt Hancock met down the pub, taking it on backed by a large government subsidy and a national rail network backed with a long term investment plan aimed at providing a better service for the whole country.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

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It would be interesting to be able to compare LNER to other areas of the railway that are still run by franchises.

* Have ticket prices changed at a similar rate to each other, or has one led to larger increases over the other?
* Has the level of investment changed (increased or decreased) since?
* Does it make a profit, and what happens to that profit if it does, is it reinvested, added to the public purse to hep pay for other services or does it make a loss?
* Are staffing levels significantly different between the 2, or does either apporach lead to a similar level of employment?

 

[Badger Boy]

Spot on, couldn't agree more. We must invest in the railways and stop subsidising road travel.

Personally, I love a good train ride. I think that the train should be THE first choice for travel and I'd love to see all trains on UK tracks be British made (Bombadier for the win, sucking up to the Derby fan a bit there!) and maintained. I might be totally wrong, but it seems to me that the service and network would be much better if it was run by the DfT entirely and was self-sufficient. Any profits could then be used for reinvestment but also then used for other DfT owned franchises. I'd like to see the same for the bus network and it be possible to buy a ticket in Brighton which allows you to travel throughout the country on a truly joined up network.

 

[beorhthelm]

Spot on, couldn't agree more. We must invest in the railways and stop subsidising road travel.

assume sarcasm? or not aware of huge net contribution from fuel excise duties.

£12bn spent, £35bn in from fuel and VED.

 

[Horses Arse]

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It's incredible, isn't it? Multiple law breaking, fraudulent activities left right and center, public purse pillaged, blatant lying in Parliament, to the Queen, to everyone and it took years for the press to begin to stir, only when they couldn't ignore any more.

Some non-Tory sap makes some daft social media post and its straight in the papers.

Amazing really.

 

[Is it PotG?]

It's incredible, isn't it? Multiple law breaking, fraudulent activities left right and center, public purse pillaged, blatant lying in Parliament, to the Queen, to everyone and it took years for the press to begin to stir, only when they couldn't ignore any more.

Some non-Tory sap makes some daft social media post and its straight in the papers.

Amazing really.

Let's hope such insight is running the country in the near future.

Who needs 'whataboutery' anyhow?

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Its a bit stupid of her, to not check her facts before tweeting.

But on the scale of things, it's hardly Dominic Raab not understanding that the port of Dover was important for UK trade.

Regardless of party, it's a bit stupid of any MP to tweet anything without checking facts first, but then I guess that's what Twitter is for.

 

[Weststander]

Personally, I love a good train ride. I think that the train should be THE first choice for travel and I'd love to see all trains on UK tracks be British made (Bombadier for the win, sucking up to the Derby fan a bit there!) and maintained. I might be totally wrong, but it seems to me that the service and network would be much better if it was run by the DfT entirely and was self-sufficient. Any profits could then be used for reinvestment but also then used for other DfT owned franchises. I'd like to see the same for the bus network and it be possible to buy a ticket in Brighton which allows you to travel throughout the country on a truly joined up network.

Pre lockdowns/pandemic our governments were pumping in £18.47b into our railways, fare income £11.6b, totalling £30b per annum.

Total dividends paid out were £262m, now down to £38m. Inconsequential to fare prices and investment.

But like you I’d like to see a single company running the lot, possibly state owned. It’s a fake marketplace, it’s silly that several rail operators send trains from London to Sussex, what is the benefit?

 

[vegster]

Regardless of party, it's a bit stupid of any MP to tweet anything without checking facts first, but then I guess that's what Twitter is for.

Fact checking these days is irrelevant , Johnson made a career out of fibs and lies be it as a journalist or politician. Conversely, a Tory minister or MP confronted with a truth they cannot accept merely ignores it and carries on as if it simply does not exist.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Fact checking these days is irrelevant , Johnson made a career out of fibs and lies be it as a journalist or politician. Conversely, a Tory minister or MP confronted with a truth they cannot accept merely ignores it and carries on as if it simply does not exist.

I deliberately kept my comment politically neutral, but as Meghan Markle said 'I'm telling my truth'. Sadly a way of life for many these days.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Just a guess but has Potty tried to start another anti-labour thread?

Good luck with that

A desperate pointless thread, by a desperate pointless poster would be guess too.

 

[vegster]

I deliberately kept my comment politically neutral, but as Meghan Markle said 'I'm telling my truth'. Sadly a way of life for many these days.

It used to be a duty of government, not the opposition, to exemplify and uphold truth in politics and public life.

When a government not only fails in that duty, but carries on regardless despite being shown up numerous times, its pretty much the end of democracy.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

It used to be a duty of government, not the opposition, to exemplify and uphold truth in politics and public life.

When a government not only fails in that duty, but carries on regardless despite being shown up numerous times, its pretty much the end of democracy.

How far back shall we go? The Blair government which was the most obvious to fail in that duty prior to the current lot, or shall we go back further?

 

[schmunk]

It’s a fake marketplace, it’s silly that several rail operators send trains from London to Sussex, what is the benefit?

Here's the thing, though - they don't.

Southern; Thameslink; Gatwick Express - they're all just brand names of the same company, Govia Thameslink Railway.

 

[vegster]

How far back shall we go? The Blair government which was the most obvious to fail in that duty prior to the current lot, or shall we go back further?

Ha ha ! Top Whataboutery !....it really can't compare to the building of 40 new hospitals and a new Nuclear power station every year !

Marvelous scenes !

 

[Live by the sea]

Unfortunately Sultana is a good example of why Labour didn’t win the last election and it’s not just because she is very extreme left wing . I know more intelligent councillors than her and that’s saying something

 

[rogersix]

Unfortunately Sultana is a good example of why Labour didn’t win the last election and it’s not just because she is very extreme left wing . I know more intelligent councillors than her and that’s saying something

would you say that you are well placed to judge relative intellect?

 

[mikeyjh]

Personally, I love a good train ride. I think that the train should be THE first choice for travel and I'd love to see all trains on UK tracks be British made (Bombadier for the win, sucking up to the Derby fan a bit there!) and maintained. I might be totally wrong, but it seems to me that the service and network would be much better if it was run by the DfT entirely and was self-sufficient. Any profits could then be used for reinvestment but also then used for other DfT owned franchises. I'd like to see the same for the bus network and it be possible to buy a ticket in Brighton which allows you to travel throughout the country on a truly joined up network.

Haha, fill your boots! I completely agree - Even back down in the Brighton area, I still have friends who will choose to drive to an event at, for instance, Wembley, it's bonkers, should instinctively be the train. A fully integrated public transport network would be marvellous.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Whilst I'm no ZS fan - a classic case of someone employed above their ability level - this tweet is wrong but the general principle is right.

If we are talking tweets, Pestons last night that 120,000 benefit claimants - who are employed - but will be asked to stump up some cash to help pay the debt (seek more or better paid work was the phrase), whilst we lift the cap on bankers bonuses in an era of "wage restraint" is where the real harm is. This vindictive right wing politics, extenuating the gap between rich and poor is where our ire should be directed.