Algernon
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Yves Bissouma needs to be here a while yet before he lays claim to Nobby's or any other " best??" crown.
Too early to think of Biss in those terms IMHO. He has had less than a year as a true first team regular. He looks the business but it's early days still. He certainly has the potential to be one of our very best, due in no small part to the level we're now playing at. However, you can't just throw around these labels without thinking of the other greats he's competing with like Kemy Agustein, Ryan Harley and Tommy Fraser.
If Biss does go it'll be another Ben White situation, where the buying club would have to pay well over his actual value. He's 24, has another 2.5 years on his contract here (i think), and we dont want/need to sell. If star players out of the Championship (Maupay/Webster) are costing minimum £20million these days, and we turned down £25m for BW, you'd have to reasonably put a starting Prem midfielder of his quality & age at least around £30/35million, so adding the fact we dont want to sell him opening bids should be £40/45million and up.
Importance to the team at the time is surely a different argument from 'best midfielder' which is what we're talking about isn't it? I've watched the Albion for 32 years, my Dad for 57 years and neither of us have seen a midfielder with more ability than Biss.
If you're talking importance to the team then yes, Nobby and probably a couple of others then come into the equation or ahead of him.
Importance to the team at the time is surely a different argument from 'best midfielder' which is what we're talking about isn't it? I've watched the Albion for 32 years, my Dad for 57 years and neither of us have seen a midfielder with more ability than Biss.
If you're talking importance to the team then yes, Nobby and probably a couple of others then come into the equation or ahead of him.
Norwich want £50 mill for Buendia, Arsenal don't want to pay £40 million. The real price is probably £30mill.
I don't know whether Arsenal would pay big money after forking out £45 mill for Thomas Partey. He spent 3 seasons in a decent Atletico midfield but then is 27 compared to Bissouma's 24. I'd place Bissouma's value c. halfway between Buendia and Partey so c. £35 mill.
It goes to show what a brilliant bit of business Spurs did getting Hojbjerg for £15 mill.
If Hojbjerg had more than 1 year left on his contract he'd of gone for double that, plus he had no intention of signing a new one with Saints.
'Best ever' is such a subjective thing. Does Bissouma have the potential? Absolutely. Is he there yet? No.
Quite. He is good but he hardly Charlie Oatway is he?
More seriously - I am “only” (I guess only is okay given most of us are old as the kids tictoc) 41 and he is the best I can remember. Who from the 80s would be as good? Case?
According to L’Equipe, we are close to signing Malian midfielder Yves Bissouma for 20 million euros.
This guy is a legit talent and is only 21. Super exciting if we pull it off.
Him and Tau our last 1st team business?
Usual caveat - you can't properly compare players across eras.
BUT, in terms of how important a midfielder is to their team, I think Biss still has some way to go to match the great Nobby.
Too early to think of Biss in those terms IMHO. He has had less than a year as a true first team regular. He looks the business but it's early days still. He certainly has the potential to be one of our very best, due in no small part to the level we're now playing at. However, you can't just throw around these labels without thinking of the other greats he's competing with like Kemy Agustein, Ryan Harley and Tommy Fraser.
Yeah. He hasn't been with us and in his pomp long enough yet to say, but is starting to look the part. I was there in Brian Horton's time and remain a great fan.
50 mill all day long to a top 4 side, and I would not hold him back if that came in as much as I want to see him play again..
Hating that I may never get to see the likes of Biss, White and Lamptey play live for us at the Amex again or ever.