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[Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven



Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Bizarre twist that a club and fans who only weeks ago celebrated what Regis achieved for black players now come out and stand by their player.

If this is upheld they are all going to look rather silly and their recent celebrations will become nothing but faux sentiment

I don’t think we can hold the entire club and its supporters to account for this. This is about Rodriguez. WBA have to stand by him at this stage. However, how they react when he is handed his ban, that is when we should judge them.

I would like to think that WBA will then take the right course of action.

As for Pardew, he could take a leaf out of Chris’s stoic book.


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Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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I don’t think we can hold the entire club and its supporters to account for this. This is about Rodriguez. WBA have to stand by him at this stage. However, how they react when he is handed his ban, that is when we should judge them.

I would like to think that WBA will then take the right course of action.

As for Pardew, he could take a leaf out of Chris’s stoic book.


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I would expect a club to say the player protests his innocence it is clearly a sensitive matter and we will not make further comment until the process is concluded.

Backing their player is sending out the wrong message at this stage
 


pornomagboy

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May 16, 2006
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if they didn't have enoth evidence then they wouldn't have charged him, as they would have gone through a panel to get to the bottom of it

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herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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I don't understand how players who are found guilty are not sacked for Gross Misconduct. This would certainly apply at my company. Different rules for footballers? (appreciate it's still alleged only in this case).
 




Hamilton

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I would expect a club to say the player protests his innocence it is clearly a sensitive matter and we will not make further comment until the process is concluded.

Backing their player is sending out the wrong message at this stage

No, I agree with you there that the club management and leadership have really stuck their neck out. I’m referring to the club in its entirety I.e. supporters and all.

We’ve had our own issues in the past as a club and been very circumspect yet fair in the handling.


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sharpey38

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Aug 4, 2011
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I'd imagine they must have some fairly conclusive evidence to charge him? Maybe some footage from an unseen angle as there is a million cameras around these days. I for one support Bong. If Rodriguez didn't want to get caught up in a mess then he should have activated his brain and never got involved to begin with
 




Bozza

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I don't understand how players who are found guilty are not sacked for Gross Misconduct. This would certainly apply at my company. Different rules for footballers? (appreciate it's still alleged only in this case).

Why would a football club sack, ie release on a free, a highly valuable asset?

No organisation are compelled to sack someone, they’ll do so if it makes sense for them to do so. It doesn’t make sense for a Premier League football club to sack a player worth, at a guess, £20m.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I daresay that if the positions were reversed and an Albion player had been charged with the same Albion, some fans would be rallying behind him as well - “he’s a top bloke who has never shown to have this in him before” etc.
Some would, true enough, but I wouldn't.

A lot of people who aren't particularly racist might resort to a comment in the spur of the moment that they regret. Particularly if the sort of insult they say has been common in their life. It's possible he said it without really thinking it through. I could believe players associated with our club could have said something like that at some point. It's a bad thing to say, and deserves punishment, but also deserves forgiveness (if sought). IMO, a worse crime would be to make such an accusation up. There's no way I could imagine Bong made this up, it would be a lot harder for me to forgive.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I don't understand how players who are found guilty are not sacked for Gross Misconduct. This would certainly apply at my company. Different rules for footballers? (appreciate it's still alleged only in this case).
I imagine employees at your company aren't worth millions of pounds to the company.
 




ATFC Seagull

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Jul 27, 2004
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Without knowing what evidence there is available, I think it's too early to pass comment on the player or WBA. The thing that leans me towards thinking there must be something to this is Hughton's comments at the time, which clearly suggest he strongly believes it to be fact. I feel he's too clever/measured a bloke to make an unqualified statement like that if there was a chance it could be wrong/a misunderstanding.

We'll see.
 










studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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Absolute state of some West Brom fans. They have the nerve to have Cyrille Regis as their avatar but are directing foul abuse at Bong.

Twitter is certainly bringing a lot of idiots out of the woodwork. The only conclusion to draw is that football still attracts a lot of racists and both football and society has a long way to go
 


LlcoolJ

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Oct 14, 2009
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Sheffield
Twitter is certainly bringing a lot of idiots out of the woodwork. The only conclusion to draw is that football still attracts a lot of racists and both football and society has a long way to go
Unfortunately that's also pretty clear from a lot of the political threads on here.
 


sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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sounds like something an 8 year old would say ......is Rodriguez a bit daft...?? seems a very odd thing for an adult to say ......verbatim like ..!!
 




severnside gull

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Intrigued that when ostensibly it's one person's word against another they have actually charged Rodriguez.
I do wonder though about all those SKY TV microphones around the perimeter.
 


The Upper Library

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May 23, 2013
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My concern is the venom being directed against Bong regardless of the outcome of this charge. He is not only a great player but also ,from a personal point of view, a very decent person , having met him on a few occasions.


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