Klaas
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I see. You think Bobby Fisher was lying then?
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[Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven
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I see. You think Bobby Fisher was lying then?
alfredmizen
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obviously
1066familyman
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To an extent, I agree about racism being an industry. But that's quite another thing from trying to call someone out as a bullshitter. Do you really believe Bobby Fisher and Cunningham didn't receive racial abuse at The Den that day? (now that you've conceded that Cunningham did play there after all).
alfredmizen
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certainly not to the extent he states in the article
Klaas
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OK. Seems to me you're the one more guilty of lying.
alfredmizen
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where have i lied ?
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What do you remember from that game then (and which end were you in, Orient or Millwall) ?
alfredmizen
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I dont remember anything friends who WERE there who have no reason to lie remember it was nothing whatsoever like that , there was no barbed wire , there was no knife thrown and cunningham didnt score.
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Presumably, these were the same friends who told you that Cunningham didn't play until you went back to them to say 'but someone on a Brighton forum said he did'
alfredmizen
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Presumably, these were the same friends who told you that Cunningham didn't play until you went back to them to say 'but someone on a Brighton forum said he did'
no , and nobody on here did state specifically that he did play.
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Well maybe you should ask them if he did ? At least then you would some sort of basis for whatever point you are trying to make
Hungry Joe
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People tell lies, yes, but in most cases small / white lies. People exaggerate a truth to make a point more often, sometimes justified, sometimes not.
What does "racism is an industry" mean though? If it means what I think you mean then, as whites, we do have to suck it up imo. I do understand to an extent the anger that some well-meaning and decently behaved white people (men mostly it seems) feel at the fact that they are somehow blamed and are responsible for the sins of both history and what is still, in many ways, a bigoted and racist world. It just doesn't seem fair, right?
But the fact is, as white people, we absolutely do have a responsibility to understand the context of all actions that are either intended to be, or construed to be, racist, and act accordingly - centuries of persecution of black and ethnic minorities deserves nothing less as a response. That's what political correctness really is (or should be), and that's why it's a force for good, a force for decency. The problem otherwise is that, as a white person, one can end up sounding a bit like an apologist for racist behaviour in a misguided attempt to redress a balance that just doesn't need redressing.
Thunder Bolt
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It depends if other players heard it, as in the case of Shelvey.
Wolves players Dominic Iorfa, Matt Doherty and Cameron Borthwick-Jackson all gave evidence against Shelvey. In it they claimed their team-mate was called 'a smelly Arab c***' and 'a Moroccan p****'.
Shelvey insisted he had only ever said 'smelly breathed p****' and that he was reacting to being called a 'bald c***' having suffered from alopecia since childhood.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...elder-handed-five-game-ban-fined-100-000.html
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alfredmizen
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not really , thats just how youd like it to be.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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That doesn't make any sense.
the right footed denilson
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I didn't really want to respond because I knew that that would escalate this whole argument and feed your prejudices even more.
Frankly I'd rather that posts that deteriorate in this way on here were just deleted but as the argument has seemingly continued I will explain what I meant .
If one of our players was accused of racially abusing another player I would obviously give them the benefit of the doubt. What I wouldn't do is use it as an opportunity to spread disgusting bigoted views. There is a huge difference between giving the player the benefit of the doubt and giving them 100 percent support. The argument is redundant anyway because what we are talking about here is one of our players being racially abused and what you've done is allow this to create a platform for your own racist views to come out. There's no point you trying to get in some kind of moral argument with me. It's absolutely obvious you're a total racist and you despise the idea of a black person daring to suggest they were racially abused. You've used a totally unrelated newspaper report from years ago to basically suggest that Bong is lying and that other people who suffered racial abuse are lying. That's why I don't want to respond to you and that's why so many other posts have reacted to your comments. And frankly it makes me embarrassed to be an Albion supporter and even more embarrassed to be a human being.
You'd be better off coming out and saying you're a total racist and hate black people- yo'd be far more respected if you were honest rather than trying to dress things up as some kind of moral crusade.
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Alfredmizen was convinced after the Brexit victory that white people are allowed to say whatever they like to black folks. I think this has upset him.
alfredmizen
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well it has escalated and you have responded , so why not answer the question ?