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SeagullRic

New member
Jan 13, 2008
1,399
brighton
In terms of playing, for me it goes:

Football
Cricket
Golf
Squash

And watching:

Football (Only bettered by the Ashes)
Cricket
Golf



For those saying baseball, could you explain to me why you prefer it over cricket? I watched the Toronto Blue Jays play the Cleveland Indians earlier this year, and I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Taking away the spectical side of things (which admittedly is enjoyable) and judging it purely on the game itself, it appears to me to be completely bowler orientated: good shots often go unrewarded due to being hit outside the zone, runs are rarely scored and getting someone out is so common it's hardly celebrated. Contrast this with cricket: runs are constant, the conditions, wicket and weather differ from ground to ground and thus each match is very different, and a wicket is a genuine cause for celebration. Not having a pop in anyway, just interested to hear from baseball lovers what they believe baseball's merits are.
 








Basil Fawlty

Don't Mention The War
My second favourite sport is cricket, I watch and play it. Sussex CCC and England till I die. I also play for ST James Montifiore. My third sport is Tennis, my fourth sport is Formula One, my fifth sport is Darts.
 
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Barry Izbak

U.T.A.
Dec 7, 2005
7,423
Lancing By Sea
For those saying baseball, could you explain to me why you prefer it over cricket? I watched the Toronto Blue Jays play the Cleveland Indians earlier this year, and I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Taking away the spectical side of things (which admittedly is enjoyable) and judging it purely on the game itself, it appears to me to be completely bowler orientated: good shots often go unrewarded due to being hit outside the zone, runs are rarely scored and getting someone out is so common it's hardly celebrated. Contrast this with cricket: runs are constant, the conditions, wicket and weather differ from ground to ground and thus each match is very different, and a wicket is a genuine cause for celebration. Not having a pop in anyway, just interested to hear from baseball lovers what they believe baseball's merits are.

Baseball is every bit as tactical as cricket. I LOVE cricket BTW.
In the same way as KP struggles against left arm spinners, in baseball they try and match the hitters against the pitchers, or vice versa. In cricket you have the slower ball or bouner, or swing, or reverse swing. All have their equivalents in baseball.
Fielding Managers move the fielding positions to suit the pitcher, the batter they are facing or even the particular pitch that they make. Or they change the pitcher depending on the upcoming hitting.
Meanwhile the manager of the batting team is signalling his runners and hitters with what plays to put on, to a far greater extent than the cricket team's manager or captain can do. Or maybe he'll bring in a pinch hitter or runner in a certain situation.

Cricket fans make natural baseball fans. Its a different game, but with very similar nuances and tactics. I strongly recommend watching a game with someone who appreciates it, same as an American ought to watch cricket with a proper cricket fan.
 


Austrian Gull

Well-known member
Feb 5, 2009
2,497
Linz, Austria
I'm amazed by the number of people who are not that bothered by football away from the Albion - I'm one of those saddos who would take watching almost any match at any level over watching any other sport on TV.

If not football then golf.
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Just to cause a bit of a fuss,.... Football is my second sport,... Rugby Union my first.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
Baseball is every bit as tactical as cricket. I LOVE cricket BTW.
In the same way as KP struggles against left arm spinners, in baseball they try and match the hitters against the pitchers, or vice versa. In cricket you have the slower ball or bouner, or swing, or reverse swing. All have their equivalents in baseball.
Fielding Managers move the fielding positions to suit the pitcher, the batter they are facing or even the particular pitch that they make. Or they change the pitcher depending on the upcoming hitting.
Meanwhile the manager of the batting team is signalling his runners and hitters with what plays to put on, to a far greater extent than the cricket team's manager or captain can do. Or maybe he'll bring in a pinch hitter or runner in a certain situation.

Cricket fans make natural baseball fans. Its a different game, but with very similar nuances and tactics. I strongly recommend watching a game with someone who appreciates it, same as an American ought to watch cricket with a proper cricket fan.
Spot on. I'm not a fan of the designated hitter though, even though my team is an American League team.

And it every bit as international as cricket, maybe more. It's the national or 2nd sport in dozens of countries in North, Central and South America, as well as East Asia.
 


SeagullRic

New member
Jan 13, 2008
1,399
brighton
Baseball is every bit as tactical as cricket. I LOVE cricket BTW.
In the same way as KP struggles against left arm spinners, in baseball they try and match the hitters against the pitchers, or vice versa. In cricket you have the slower ball or bouner, or swing, or reverse swing. All have their equivalents in baseball.
Fielding Managers move the fielding positions to suit the pitcher, the batter they are facing or even the particular pitch that they make. Or they change the pitcher depending on the upcoming hitting.
Meanwhile the manager of the batting team is signalling his runners and hitters with what plays to put on, to a far greater extent than the cricket team's manager or captain can do. Or maybe he'll bring in a pinch hitter or runner in a certain situation.

Cricket fans make natural baseball fans. Its a different game, but with very similar nuances and tactics. I strongly recommend watching a game with someone who appreciates it, same as an American ought to watch cricket with a proper cricket fan.

Yeh that all makes sense to be honest. I went with 5 other novices (none of whom had ever been to a game before), and none of us had a clue what was going on most of the time, despite being right behind the pitchers arm. Interesting to hear about the tactical side of things, that must have completely passed me by: do all teams have pitchers who come on and bowl just one innings? Because the game I went to involved one guy bowling 7 and another bloke only 1!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
Yeh that all makes sense to be honest. I went with 5 other novices (none of whom had ever been to a game before), and none of us had a clue what was going on most of the time, despite being right behind the pitchers arm. Interesting to hear about the tactical side of things, that must have completely passed me by: do all teams have pitchers who come on and bowl just one innings? Because the game I went to involved one guy bowling 7 and another bloke only 1!
They are called the "closing pitcher" and yes, they do. It's very much a tactical move, because baseball is played every other day and a pitcher's arm can't last for the whole 9 innings over a sustained series of matches.

It does become comical when a pitcher comes on to close out the game in the 7th or 8th, then gets slapped all over the place almost wiping out a lead in a few hits, and that pitcher is then relieved. :lolol:
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Yeh that all makes sense to be honest. I went with 5 other novices (none of whom had ever been to a game before), and none of us had a clue what was going on most of the time, despite being right behind the pitchers arm. Interesting to hear about the tactical side of things, that must have completely passed me by: do all teams have pitchers who come on and bowl just one innings? Because the game I went to involved one guy bowling 7 and another bloke only 1!

It is standard practice to have another pitcher for later on. Basically, a pitcher tends to have a certain number of pitches they can manage before their arm goes. So they have a specialist for the last few innings.

In Baseball the ball is dominant. That is, that it is more difficult to score runs than get people out. the reverse is true in cricket of course. When I understood this I started to enjoy baseball much more. If you imagine getting hit for a home run as a similar feat to getting a wicket then it makes more sense. Also to begin with just ignore all the talk of RBIs and ERAs etc as it just confuses things, once you have been watching a while this stuff makes sense through osmosis.
 






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