[Albion] You are the ref: Dale Stephens' challenge on Gaston Ramirez

[Thunder Bolt]

Who was late into a challenge?

 

[The Camel]

I don't mean to gang up on you.

But when I read comments like this I do wonder if the rules of this game were changed when I wasn't looking. Are you seriously suggesting DS should have let that ball go? Fck.

Ha, I'm not bothered about people ganging up on me as long as it's civil.

It's a game of opinions, and I think although certainly he didn't intend to hurt anyone, his actions are reckless.

Happy to bet £25 that the appeal is unsuccessful, with the loser giving the money to REMF.

 

[Coldeanseagull]

If two players clash heads and one cuts his head, is this a red card? Imo it's the same outcome.

What didn't help was the ref had to speak to gaston the ladybird and also Stephens 5 minutes before.

Badly got this one wrong ref.

That's the one! I couldn't get peppa pig out of my head. Silly me, should have realised it was ben and holly

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Can't believe two people voted for red card. For me, Stephens wins the ball cleanly and Ramirez's goes into his leg. No foul. Interestingly, there were no shouts of 'Off' from the Boro fans, which usually follows almost any slightly bad foul. Suggests, for all their protestations since, Boro fans didn't think it was a red card live.

 

[fleet]

He kicks the bottom of Stephens studs - dale was once again just too quick for him as he had been all day

 

[The Camel]

I will say this, I think it's either a red or not a foul.

A yellow is a cop out.

If it's a foul it's a red card.

 

[Bozza]

That's how i saw it, Stephens was quicker to a 50/50 ball and Ramirez kicked into Stephens as a result, however i expect the incident just prior to that may have played a part in the ref giving a red

I've watched it several times since I made that post, and I've now noticed that Ramirez clearly looks up and sees Stephens coming in and if anything he is kicking out at Stephens and not the ball itself. I'd say it horribly backfired on him but, sadly, it didn't.

as he only saw Stephens push Ramirez back after Ramirez was shoving Stephens and therefore, once shown the injury to the leg, may have decided that Stephens was deliberately trying to injure their player as a continuation of that dispute.

I agree - that altercation must have been in the ref's mind as the timing was so close.

 

[Chief Wiggum]

With so much at stake (financially) in the modern game surely the time has come to introduce a rugby/cricket style video referee? I know it's not a popular idea with many but if, for example, each side had say three 'challenges' to use for decisions they deemed were incorrect and game changing eg Dales red card, a goal believed to be off side etc this would be so much fairer, accepted by the majority of fans and avoid all the bitterness and recriminations we're now reading on here. It's the bloody injustice of shitty decisions that change games that pisses me off so much

 

[sparkie]

Ha, I'm not bothered about people ganging up on me as long as it's civil.

It's a game of opinions, and I think although certainly he didn't intend to hurt anyone, his actions are reckless.

Happy to bet £25 that the appeal is unsuccessful, with the loser giving the money to REMF.

I think everyone agrees that the appeal will be unsuccessful. But a lot feel that is because the FA will back their man, not because the decision was correct and fair.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

[MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] check out the 'Mike Dean should be sacked as a referee Facebook page. V interesting reading.

 

[TSB]

I think everyone agrees that the appeal will be unsuccessful. But a lot feel that is because the FA will back their man, not because the decision was correct and fair.

It's the FL who decide upon it.
It's the FA who back the refs.

I think the FL will stand by the decision but because they're spineless and incompetent, rather than because they're protecting him.

 

[The Camel]

I think everyone agrees that the appeal will be unsuccessful. But a lot feel that is because the FA will back their man, not because the decision was correct and fair.

Don't buy that either.

The FA has overturned plenty of reds before (including marginal ones), so only conspiracy theorists would claim there is a bias towards officials.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I honestly believe we would have won if Stephens had stayed on the pitch. Absolutely shocking decision that could cost us £170m. Unfortunately there's no way in hell it will be rescinded.

Just send in our appeal along with the footage of Barton's elbow and stamp on Kayal and say how can it be a red card for Stephens but not even a yellow for either of those 2 incidents by Barton

 

[sparkie]

Don't buy that either.

The FA has overturned plenty of reds before (including marginal ones), so only conspiracy theorists would claim there is a bias towards officials.

I'm just saying the decision was wrong, but the appeal will fail.

 

[beorhthelm]

Don't buy that either.

The FA has overturned plenty of reds before (including marginal ones), so only conspiracy theorists would claim there is a bias towards officials.

so why do you think appeal wont be succesfful as theres no foul? you believe there was a foul? when he's won a free ball and the other player is late? on the retrospective evidence i cant see how anyone, even a clear minded Middlesbrough that it isnt a foul, the only issue is the injury incurred as a result of the accident.

 

[The Camel]

I'm just saying the decision was wrong, but the appeal will fail.

Yes, I know you are.

I'm saying I think the appeal committee will give a fair decision.

If they agree with the majority of posters, I'm sure they'll overturn it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I think everyone agrees that the appeal will be unsuccessful. But a lot feel that is because the FA will back their man, not because the decision was correct and fair.

I don't think the appeal will be unsuccessful. We won an appeal with Calde & the Newport player, who broke his leg in a 50/50 challenge.
The club don't make a habit of appealing cards.

 

[sparkie]

I don't think the appeal will be unsuccessful. We won an appeal with Calde & the Newport player, who broke his leg in a 50/50 challenge.
The club don't make a habit of appealing cards.

Didn't we lose the Jamie Murphy appeal ?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Who was late into a challenge?
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Just played back the incident ...can't believe the reaction of Sky commentators (not the post match pundits) ...who were continually condemning Stephens

 

[luppers]

so why do you think appeal wont be succesfful as theres no foul? you believe there was a foul? when he's won a free ball and the other player is late? on the retrospective evidence i cant see how anyone, even a clear minded Middlesbrough that it isnt a foul, the only issue is the injury incurred as a result of the accident.

I normally like Mike Dean as a ref but today he had a stinker. As stated earlier he did not blow for a foul but to get treatment for a player who appeared to have a serious injury, that is why he restarted the game with a dropball instead of a free kick. No way a red card.