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Stumpy Tim

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At the moment Reading are a bigger club than us. There can be no argument there. They have a stadium, money & are in Div 1. We can argue about our potential (which is definitely there), but at the moment that's all it is - potential
 




Captain Sensible

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For me being a bigger club is judged on how many fans a club has. With More fans, eventually comes more money better players and stadium. Brighton are a Bigger club than Reading because we have more fans. Only a 10th of them can get into withdean so it is like having a porsche with a speed resricted to 50mph. Arsenal is a bigger club than Sunderland, even though Sunderland get bigger gates (in the Premiership). More fans. Bigger Club.
 




Captain Sensible

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Neutrals don't really know about Withdeans capacity. People in other parts of the country alway say to me that 6000 is a crap attendance. Then I have to go into the whole thing about Bellotti etc. People just don't understand. If we had Falmer now, how many would we get? 12000, 15000, 20000? If it is any of thoughs figures then we would be regarded as the bigger. It's interresting but who is the bigger QPR or Reading. Qpr have more fan base and get the same attendance as Reading in a Lower division and have around the same size stadium. Its not always about money or positions in tables.
1200 away on a tuesday night at Rushden. Could Reading manage that in Div 2, with a crappy athletics stadium? I think not. Would they have survived the turmoil of Gillingham years? No.
 


Stumpy Tim said:
I would say ask the neutral who the bigger club is - 99% would say Reading

I'm not sure they would you know. Not people who really knew their football. A lot of Boro fans the other week were saying they were going along to the match cos they still saw Brighton as a big side, explaining why they got 10,500 for it rather than about 4-5 thousand for the same fixture last season (against Bristol Rovers I believe).
 




Shizuoka Dolphin

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Far be it from me to bounce such an inane thread... but Royal, do your research, learn your history and get a grip you ignorant fool!
 


dwayne

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no they got more more for the Brighton game at borough cos it was a fiver to get in, no?!!??

I'm not so sure we could match Readings average attendance of 16,000 to be fair. Reading are the bigger club..

stadium
more money
better players
approx same amount of fans

the only thing we have over them is history and that is exactly what it says on the tin HISTORY...THE PAST!!
 


Captain Sensible

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In the words of Steve Coppell himself, " If Brighton had their own stadium, going to Reading would not even be an issue".
So goes to show Coppell knows who the larger club is.

Reading fans do you want a manager that would not want your clubs job, was it not for the resrictions his current club.
 






Jul 5, 2003
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Safeway said:
I'm not sure they would you know. Not people who really knew their football. A lot of Boro fans the other week were saying they were going along to the match cos they still saw Brighton as a big side, explaining why they got 10,500 for it rather than about 4-5 thousand for the same fixture last season (against Bristol Rovers I believe).

I'd like to think that I know my football, and know plenty about Albion's recent history, but I would have to say that, as things stand, Reading are without doubt a bigger club than Brighton.

Reading have a fantastic stadium with a much larger capacity than Withdean, on average they get far bigger crowds, they have a much bigger squad, they pay better wages and they pay bigger transfer fees.

I would say that Albion are certainly the bigger of the two clubs in historical terms, and are also the bigger club in terms of future potential, but until the Seagulls have their own stadium and can generate a decent income for themselves, then Reading will remain the bigger club.
 


dwayne

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Cheshire Dolphin said:
So you're saying if we were in the Division 1 with the same ground we would get fewer than 16000 through the gate each week? :eek:

What was our average attendance in 1990/1991??

9,000??

who's to say we wouldn't get about that??

We would probably get around 15,16000 though,but that's pushing it.
 






Captain Sensible said:
Brighton are a Bigger club than Reading because we have more fans. Only a 10th of them can get into withdean

I agree Brighton are a well-supported team, but claiming you could get 60,000-70,000 for home games is going just a tiny bit over the top, surely?

I think you should go and have a bit of a lie down.
 


Captain Sensible

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The Laughing Bluebird said:
I'd like to think that I know my football, and know plenty about Albion's recent history, but I would have to say that, as things stand, Reading are without doubt a bigger club than Brighton.

Reading have a fantastic stadium with a much larger capacity than Withdean, on average they get far bigger crowds, they have a much bigger squad, they pay better wages and they pay bigger transfer fees.

I would say that Albion are certainly the bigger of the two clubs in historical terms, and are also the bigger club in terms of future potential, but until the Seagulls have their own stadium and can generate a decent income for themselves, then Reading will remain the bigger club.

Stadium not make ones club big. Darlington!!!
Larger average crowds - I wonder why?
Bigger squad - because of money.
Pay larger wages - because of their divsional status and money.

Bluebird?
are Reading bigger than Cardiff because of all the reasons you've stated?
 




Blue&WhiteSea

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dwayne it's Boro not borough Middlesbrough isn't even spelt that way.

And it was £10 not £5.

If you can't get simple facts like that correct how can you even speculate about the size of Readings fanbase.

If they had better players how do we outplay them every time.
 




Shizuoka Dolphin

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Hang on a minute:

dwayne said:
What was our average attendance in 1990/1991??

9,000??

who's to say we wouldn't get about that??

By the same man who just said:

Originally posted by dwayne
the only thing we have over them is history and that is exactly what it says on the tin HISTORY...THE PAST!!

We all know how much football has changed in the last 10-15 years. You cannot compare then and now, and like you just said, history is the past. The local interest is there, and the demand for tickets is there, if we had been sable to fit them in over the last few years, we'd have had triple our gate.
 
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Jul 5, 2003
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Captain Sensible said:
Stadium not make ones club big. Darlington!!!
Larger average crowds - I wonder why?
Bigger squad - because of money.
Pay larger wages - because of their divsional status and money.
Bluebird?
are Reading bigger than Cardiff because of all the reasons you've stated?


I'm not sure what Reading's average attendance is this season (or what ours is to be honest!), but I would say that currently the two clubs are about on a par.

We are certainly a bigger club in historical terms than Reading (as are the Albion), and I believe we also have the greater long-term potential (as do the Albion), but I reckon that as things stand Cardiff and Reading are very similar-sized clubs.
 




Captain Sensible

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WhitleyDennis said:
I agree Brighton are a well-supported team, but claiming you could get 60,000-70,000 for home games is going just a tiny bit over the top, surely?

I think you should go and have a bit of a lie down.

No WD

I ment all the fans put together around sussex and the south. only about a 10th get into each game at a time.Silly.
 


Blue&WhiteSea

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So tickets for a game in the cup against a team 2 divisions below you aren't normally reduced then.

Explain us vs Forest Green.

Oh and It's a f***ing long way away not that you would know don't remember seeing you there.
 


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