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trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,955
Hove
I am pleased to note that there are others who understand that our present position in the table is not the full story,we should have been beaten on both the last two home games and our luck cannot hold out for too long.

So you don't think Gus is aware of that? Nobody's expecting people to pretend we played Forest off the park - we all know we were lucky. But it's the ludicrous level of criticism that crops up here that gets on people's wick - targeting this player and that and coming up with 'hilarious' nicknames like Barndoor Billy. Unfortunately, as with the oft-repeated and utter cock 'no plan B' argument, some ideas get latched on to and repeated ad nauseum by people who clearly haven't got a clue. Or certain players get completely written off, like Harley -who the more balanced observers have said all along can do a decent and different job to our other players if people get off his back. And we certainly missed him doing that job on Saturday.

The idea that 'our luck can't hold out for long' is nonsense really. 4 wins out of 5 is what counts for now. Boro is another match entirely, a different type of challenge and one the players will work towards all week, addressing the issues raised by Saturday's game. The micro-analysis as someone else neatly called it is pretty pointless but admittedly part of the football experience. It's possible to do it though without being entirely negative which is something a lot of people on here simply haven't mastered (or rather, they prefer to moan, moan, moan).

As for the match day, I'd rather be in a stadium with 17500 people fully behind the team for 90 minutes than have that minority there who get on players' backs. If anyone can tell me one useful thing that comes out of shouting abuse or criticism at an Albion player, maybe I'd change my mind. As long as a player gives
maximum effort (and there've been very, very few over the years who've not done that) then I'll be fully behind them all the time they're on the pitch. If they're having a stinker, shouting encouragement is far more likely to be useful than telling them something they already know.
 




Acker79

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NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
On a vaguely related note, there was a funny moment in the second half where forest had won a throw in, and their player went to take it from a little further forward the ref waved him back and some guy who had been moaning about pretty much everything throughout the game moaned "It wasn't there, FFS, jesus christ!". It was the biggest overreaction to being a few feet further up I've ever heard, and the forest player heard it too, and turned and smiled meekly or maybe a little surprised by the anger, and put his hand up in acknowledgement as he moved back.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,464
Hove
You have to take the rough with the smooth, thought we didn't deserve to lose to West Ham only making a single mistake in the game, then probably deserved the win against Leeds when we totally dominated the 2nd half only to fall asleep in the final minute.

Forest were robbed, but it made it a sweet wonderful moment. Sometimes football is like that, 90mins of rubbish then a dazzling run, 2 passes and a goal. I loved it, loved it for the shear unfairness, the boredom of the game, the unlikeliness of a goal, the amount of people that had left and given up on the game, then that single moment of genius to light up stadium. Brilliant, other than losing my son's bag after (see other thread) I'm still buzzing.
 


trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,955
Hove
You have to take the rough with the smooth, thought we didn't deserve to lose to West Ham only making a single mistake in the game, then probably deserved the win against Leeds when we totally dominated the 2nd half only to fall asleep in the final minute.

Forest were robbed, but it made it a sweet wonderful moment. Sometimes football is like that, 90mins of rubbish then a dazzling run, 2 passes and a goal. I loved it, loved it for the shear unfairness, the boredom of the game, the unlikeliness of a goal, the amount of people that had left and given up on the game, then that single moment of genius to light up stadium. Brilliant, other than losing my son's bag after (see other thread) I'm still buzzing.

Agreed. It may have been mostly crap but was the perfect way to illustrate to my fledgling footy supporting girlfriend that the 'unfairness' of football is what consistently makes it stand out from other sports.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
So you don't think Gus is aware of that? Nobody's expecting people to pretend we played Forest off the park - we all know we were lucky. But it's the ludicrous level of criticism that crops up here that gets on people's wick - targeting this player and that and coming up with 'hilarious' nicknames like Barndoor Billy. Unfortunately, as with the oft-repeated and utter cock 'no plan B' argument, some ideas get latched on to and repeated ad nauseum by people who clearly haven't got a clue. Or certain players get completely written off, like Harley -who the more balanced observers have said all along can do a decent and different job to our other players if people get off his back. And we certainly missed him doing that job on Saturday.

The idea that 'our luck can't hold out for long' is nonsense really. 4 wins out of 5 is what counts for now. Boro is another match entirely, a different type of challenge and one the players will work towards all week, addressing the issues raised by Saturday's game. The micro-analysis as someone else neatly called it is pretty pointless but admittedly part of the football experience. It's possible to do it though without being entirely negative which is something a lot of people on here simply haven't mastered (or rather, they prefer to moan, moan, moan).

As for the match day, I'd rather be in a stadium with 17500 people fully behind the team for 90 minutes than have that minority there who get on players' backs. If anyone can tell me one useful thing that comes out of shouting abuse or criticism at an Albion player, maybe I'd change my mind. As long as a player gives
maximum effort (and there've been very, very few over the years who've not done that) then I'll be fully behind them all the time they're on the pitch. If they're having a stinker, shouting encouragement is far more likely to be useful than telling them something they already know.

Good post.
 




Codner pharmaceuticals

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2009
1,359
Border Country
Actually we played pretty badly the whole of last March - where we won an unprecedented number of games in a month (8??).

I think it would be the right and proper thing to do to admit this and go back to league 1. We should only take the points when we A) win and B) play well. Without this we risk becoming a nonsense club.
 












Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
I was sitting in west Stand Upper, ruminating on memories of watching Vaslur Gisslaisson and watching us get beaten 4-0 by Halifax Town (?) at Priestfield
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in front of about 2,500 havig spentd three hurs on a double decker bus with the prospect of a Wagon Wheel at halt time and another three hours ona double decker before I got home.

And then I looked at what was in front of me and saw that it was good.
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Good things do, indeed, come to the righteous!
 
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Pbseagull

New member
Sep 28, 2011
916
Eastbourne
I agree that we didn't play well on saturday, but that feeling of complete elation and exicitement when Buckley scored was bloody fantastic. I left the stadium with a beaming smile on my face, drove back to Eastbourne with a beaming smile on my face and am sitting at work STILL with a beaming smile on my face!. Do I want to moan at how crap and lucky we were.........NO THANKS!
 




Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
We were crap.
We were lucky.

and We're STILL smiling!
 




matthew

Well-known member
Sep 20, 2009
2,413
Ovingdean, United Kingdom
Fans always complain, it wouldn't be football if they didn't. Deal with it. We didn't play well on Saturday, we were awful. Fans deserve to complain about an awful performances where we got dominated against a team in the relegation zone - this recent luck will soon turn around.
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,033
West, West, West Sussex
Fans deserve to complain about an awful performances where we got dominated against a team in the relegation zone

Thats what concerned me most. If you'd asked someone who didn't know "which of these teams is 7th and which is next to bottom" they would probably have given the wrong answer.
 




deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
21,798
I wouldn't usually complain after a win but f***ing hell that was awful. We played like a bottom of the table away team.
 




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