Yes vote for city smoking ban.

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Fair enough, I do expect smoking in Pubs, but I think banning it in Restaurants and the like is perfectly reasonable - people should be able to eat a meal without smoke being blown in their faces.

No-one likes having smoke blown in their face, but people do enjoy a cigarette after a meal. Again, let's make non-smoking the pre-dominant area but have smoking areas if there 's room. Good ventiliation is very important.

If it's a really small cafe or restaurant, then fair enough, people can go outside for a fag. But let the market decide.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

The only trouble with them is how does the smoke know where to stop? It doesn't get up to the no smoking area , look at the sign and say "Oh, I can't go in there, it's a non-smoking area. Better turn around and stay here."

Yoda - this wouldn't be a problem. Clearly designated "smoking areas"would mean that people could only light up and smoke there. They couldn't carry their fags to the loo or bar.

People would soon get the hang of it.

 

[CHAPPERS]

To be honest I'm all for increased ventilation ad all that but I feel it should be up to the owner of the establishment personally. I don't want to go to pubs where the air is clinically clean and you can't shout or swear and they don't play music. I want to be able to go to the boozer, have a pint and a cigarette and not be told what I can and can't do.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

To be honest I'm all for increased ventilation ad all that but I feel it should be up to the owner of the establishment personally. I don't want to go to pubs where the air is clinically clean and you can't shout or swear and they don't play music. I want to be able to go to the boozer, have a pint and a cigarette and not be told what I can and can't do.

I agree. It's all part of the increasing corporatisation of our culture which stinks much more than cigarette smoke. New York is a less bohemian place than it was since the ban was introduced. Brighton's always attracted non-conformists, alternative lifetstyle people and is probably the most bohemian city in the UK. Banning smoking has cultural implications too - the kind of thing you talk about. I'd hate Brighton to adopt this policy.

 

[CHAPPERS]

All it takes is a sticker on the wondow, as places have now, that say 'Smoking allowed throughout' and then those that don't want to breathe in smoke whiloe they poison their livers with alcohol can choose to go somewhere else.

 

[ripper]

I say let the pub landlords decide. If they want to lose business by banning smoking in their establishments then let them. I don't think this is something that should be forced on the public. That way some (probably chain pubs like Wetherspoons etc) might ban smoking, but hopefully traditional boozers would stay as they are.

 

[i hate derby]

I think a ban on Liverpudlians would be a better idea.

we all agree

 

[Set of Tracksuits]

Just echoing what other people have said, I think that a total ban is wrong. Although I don't smoke myself, I know plenty of people that do, and I can make up my own mind about whether I want to take the "risk" of inhaling some of their smoke.

And I can't honestly say that I've ever been into a pub that was so smoky that I couldn't find somewhere to stand if I wanted to talk with someone who objected to people smoking around them.

 

[finbar]

Ban it indoors. Im sick of going to pubs/clubs and coming home stinking of fags. Your skin stinks, your jeans stink, your hair stinks, everything stinks, it REALLY stinks and im not even f******* smoking, just sitting within 15 feet of someone who is.

Restaurants - ive nearly a fight when my starter appeared just as the person next to me finished their meal and they lit up. i asked them if they'd mind waiting and they said they'd finish their fag. I had no option but to call them an inconsiderate cu**.

 

[bhafc4eva]

Ban it indoors. Im sick of going to pubs/clubs and coming home stinking of fags. Your skin stinks, your jeans stink, your hair stinks, everything stinks, it REALLY stinks and im not even f******* smoking, just sitting within 15 feet of someone who is.

Restaurants - ive nearly a fight when my starter appeared just as the person next to me finished their meal and they lit up. i asked them if they'd mind waiting and they said they'd finish their fag. I had no option but to call them an inconsiderate cu**.

In future go to restaurants with a no smoking area. There you go problem sorted, how easy was that? I know McDonalds is no smoking so you should have no problems there.

 

[TheWhiteRose_LUFC]

What a ****

 

[caz99]

In future go to restaurants with a no smoking area. There you go problem sorted, how easy was that? I know McDonalds is no smoking so you should have no problems there.

that sort of attitude is exactly why the anti want it banned everywhere. no one has a right to tell people not to smoke however no one has a right to make people breath in their poisionous fumes either.

i dont care in pubs and clubs being an ex smoker however i don't like it in restaurants but most are now non smoking. it needs to be a combination of non smoking areas and smoking areas with both being enforced so everyone has choice.

 

[Curious Orange]

Yet we quite happily tolerate speed bumps forcing cars to run at way less than 30mph through residential areas, churning out fumes aplenty.

 

[finbar]

In future go to restaurants with a no smoking area. There you go problem sorted, how easy was that? I know McDonalds is no smoking so you should have no problems there.

Or the inconsiderate **** could have waited 5 minutes?

And to be honest mate if you consider Mcdonalds a restaurant then you probably should stick to your Lambert and Butler or Royals as it doesnt sound like youve got much else going for you in your life.

Just to make it clear im only talking about confined public spaces. everyone likes a toke in their own house

 

[caz99]

Yet we quite happily tolerate speed bumps forcing cars to run at way less than 30mph through residential areas, churning out fumes aplenty.

i dont have much choice about that though do i . people choose to smoke. bit of a difference i dont want it in my face therefore i have as much right as the person that chooses to smoke.

 

[Curious Orange]

i dont have much choice about that though do i . people choose to smoke. bit of a difference i dont want it in my face therefore i have as much right as the person that chooses to smoke.

We choose to drive as much as we choose to smoke. The point I was making was the hipocracy of the councils who on one hand want to ban us smoking in pubs, yet force us to breath the nasty exhaust that is produced by cars running at deliberately low speeds.

 

[mrhairy]

Let the business owner decide. Are we going to ban smoking at Football grounds. You couldn't smoke in your seat at Cardiff and Blackpool last year. Can we have a poll?

 

[Bwian]

Let the business owner decide. Are we going to ban smoking at Football grounds. You couldn't smoke in your seat at Cardiff and Blackpool last year. Can we have a poll?

And we shouldn't allow it at Withdean either-the 2 guys in the seats next to me both smoke non-stop throughout every game. No matter what way the wind blows I always end up with their smoke in my face and lungs. The interesting thing is they always hold their cigarettes at arms length so the smoke doesn't get in their eyes..BUT IT f***ing GETS IN MINE YOU C**TS.

 

[Bwian]

Can the anti-smoking lobby prove that anyone, including Roy Castle, has actually died as a result of passive smoking? The answer is no.

I'm a non smoker but I'm against a ban. There is an economic impact. In Ireland, many publicans are struggling now and the same in New York. If the non-smoking brigade are so confident that people prefer non-smoking bars why not let the maket decide then? Ah, but they don't argue that do they. They want a total ban.

What I would do is reverse the current policy of having non-smoking areas so that the majority of space in a bar or pub is non-smoking but that there were still smoking areas. Increase and improve the ventilation. We're talking about pubs for **ck sake. People who go into a pub know that there will be smoking, you don't have to go. Simiarly the people who work in pubs... if you don't like it, go and get another job. If an owner wants a " smoke free" environment. fine, let him or her do that but don't force it on the rest of us. We're becoming so sanitised in this culture. It makes me sick.

Call me old fashioned but I think people should be allowed to smoke in pubs. So, no to a ban... let the market decide.

I'm sorry but you speak a load of bollocks here. It isn't non-smokers who should be choosing whether to enter a polluted, enclosed environment-it it smokers who should be choosing to leave their filthy habit outside.

I personally don't give two flying fucks about the economic well-being of a publican who doesn't give a f*** about the health of his/her customers. It is increasingly obvious and scientifically proven that cigarette smoke is a killer, it makes everybody's clothes stink and doesn't just kill its addicts. I used to smoke, had no problems smoking where and when I wanted...now I feel like apologising to every non-smoker that involuntarily inhaled my cigarette smoke...I am now allergic to cigarette smoke which makes being a non-smoker a lot easier but when her indoors is a committed smoker it makes for some shit evenings in!

If you want to smoke, fine. Just do it outdoors-not in an enclosed area where other people don't have a choice to inhale it or not.

 

[John Byrnes Mullet]

Get it BANNED and out of our lifes. It is killer and costs us all a fortune in our taxes every year, never mind about all the taxes that smokers pay. If they paid for the money they cost the NHS fags would have to be 12.50 a packet.
There are no positives on smoking.

A pint or two never hurt anyone and its medically proven.