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Yes vote for city smoking ban.



dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
Liverpool has become the first English city to aprove a total ban on smoking in public places,should Brighton be next?
 






mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,903
England
especially now it has been extensively shown how the effects of passive smoking are vastly more damaging than first believed. its deffinetly a great step in my view :clap:
 








Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,526
London
I think a ban on Liverpudlians would be a better idea.
 










CAFC Matt

New member
Jul 27, 2003
5,465
Woodindean
If it is banned in public places would one still be able to light up outside, in open air. For example outside WHSmiths in Churchill Square.

Just Wondered
 






SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
definatly! ban it everywhere! be more good publicity if we can lead the way with liverpool! hate the smell of fags anyway! those things can kill you know :smokin: :shootself
 


Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,882
London
Can the anti-smoking lobby prove that anyone, including Roy Castle, has actually died as a result of passive smoking? The answer is no.

I'm a non smoker but I'm against a ban. There is an economic impact. In Ireland, many publicans are struggling now and the same in New York. If the non-smoking brigade are so confident that people prefer non-smoking bars why not let the maket decide then? Ah, but they don't argue that do they. They want a total ban.

What I would do is reverse the current policy of having non-smoking areas so that the majority of space in a bar or pub is non-smoking but that there were still smoking areas. Increase and improve the ventilation. We're talking about pubs for **ck sake. People who go into a pub know that there will be smoking, you don't have to go. Simiarly the people who work in pubs... if you don't like it, go and get another job. If an owner wants a " smoke free" environment. fine, let him or her do that but don't force it on the rest of us. We're becoming so sanitised in this culture. It makes me sick.

Call me old fashioned but I think people should be allowed to smoke in pubs. So, no to a ban... let the market decide.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,080
So I can't go to my boozer and enjoy a snout with my pint, you lot think that's a good idea?

What the f*** is the world coming to?
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,080
Sneaky George said:
Can the anti-smoking lobby prove that anyone, including Roy Castle, has actually died as a result of passive smoking? The answer is no.

I'm a non smoker but I'm against a ban. There is an economic impact. In Ireland, many publicans are struggling now and the same in New York. If the non-smoking brigade are so confident that people prefer non-smoking bars why not let the maket decide then? Ah, but they don't argue that do they. They want a total ban.

What I would do is reverse the current policy of having non-smoking areas so that the majority of space in a bar or pub is non-smoking but that there were still smoking areas. Increase and improve the ventilation. We're talking about pubs for **ck sake. People who go into a pub know that there will be smoking, you don't have to go. Simiarly the people who work in pubs... if you don't like it, go and get another job. If an owner wants a " smoke free" environment. fine, let him or her do that but don't force it on the rest of us. We're becoming so sanitised in this culture. It makes me sick.

Call me old fashioned but I think people should be allowed to smoke in pubs. So, no to a ban... let the market decide.

YEAH!
 


Schrödinger's Toad

Nie dla Idiotów
Jan 21, 2004
11,957
Sneaky George said:

What I would do is reverse the current policy of having non-smoking areas so that the majority of space in a bar or pub is non-smoking but that there were still smoking areas. Increase and improve the ventilation. We're talking about pubs for **ck sake. People who go into a pub know that there will be smoking, you don't have to go. Simiarly the people who work in pubs... if you don't like it, go and get another job. If an owner wants a " smoke free" environment. fine, let him or her do that but don't force it on the rest of us. We're becoming so sanitised in this culture. It makes me sick.

Call me old fashioned but I think people should be allowed to smoke in pubs. So, no to a ban... let the market decide.


Fair enough, I do expect smoking in Pubs, but I think banning it in Restaurants and the like is perfectly reasonable - people should be able to eat a meal without smoke being blown in their faces.
 


Yoda

English & European
Sneaky George said:
What I would do is reverse the current policy of having non-smoking areas so that the majority of space in a bar or pub is non-smoking but that there were still smoking areas.

The only trouble with them is how does the smoke know where to stop? It doesn't get up to the no smoking area , look at the sign and say "Oh, I can't go in there, it's a non-smoking area. Better turn around and stay here." :jester:
 
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Years ago, the French imposed a ban on smoking in bars and restaurants.

Go to France. Is there any evidence that this has had any effect?

The question is not whether there should be a ban, but whether anyone will pay any attention to it and whether anyone will enforce it.

The proprietors of premises could easily impose their own ban today. I suspect that most of them haven't done so, because they don't want to get into the enforcement business.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,982
Sneaky George said:
Call me old fashioned but I think people should be allowed to smoke in pubs. So, no to a ban... let the market decide.

problem is, there was a rash of pubs try that in the mid 90's apparently, and it went no where. Fact is people like a smoke with their drink. How many "social smokers" do you know, those that only smoke when down the pub? The health lobby point to this as a reason to ban smoking in public, but smoking a couple of fags a week is going to have a negligable effect on health.

Ive said it before, its time for governments to shit or get off the pot. If its so bad for us, ban it outright. otherwise leave it alone. But they cant because of the revenue loss.
 


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