What is it about 150 days until England lose their opening group game. Before that its a certainty that Kane will pull a hamstring or something else putting him out of the world cup.
Anyway Brighton to stay up
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[Football] Would you take England winning the World Cup...But Brighton get relegated
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Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Just seems bizarre to me. Euro 96 and WC 98 are what got me heavily involved in feeling for a team - the whole country seemed involved and it was magical. Granted, it doesn’t feel the same now but that support was planted there and then.
I remember going to a WC qualifier on a week night in 1976 or 77 at Wembley. We were still in with a shout of qualifying. Wembley was a dump. We drew in front of a less than half full stadium (30 something thousand). You could pay on the gate. It was like watching non league football, emotionless, flat, crap. I was frankly shocked, having enjoyed Great Britain's world cup win ten years before on the box, all those wonderful union flags flying, ensuring that Scotland Wales and NI could feel part of it all, and forever grateful to be part of the union. 
Some on here mock modern football. But England games are now well attended. Judging by all the flags it is a great day out for supporters of small teams, getting the chance to watch some of the players they see on MOTD and Sky. Good luck to them.
Sadly the players are never as up for it as they were in the 60s, when being an Internatial and Winning opened doors - doing telly adverts and earning a bit of money to supplement their, let's face it, relatively shit salaries. Under those circumstances playing for queen and country takes on a resonance. Some of those players did National Service and many would have lost family members in the war. Different times....very different. Those 66 boys would have been very proud. Especially given the opposition (all of it).
These days players are clearly aware that some clown from the thirld world, supplemented by Blatter and chums using their ill gotten gains, could quite easily end their career with a malicious or simply unskilled tackle. You have the media breathing all over you, poking fun at your missus' cellulite, and accusing you of virtual treason if you screw up. The fans of lower league teams become distraught. If I were an England player I would carefully do my best and keep my head down. The chances I would behave like Gazza are slim to none. And let's not forget, Gazza may be patriotic, but he is bat shit mental.
So for me, I'd take 3 points vs Chelsea in place of a WC win. Possibly even one point.
Some on here mock modern football. But England games are now well attended. Judging by all the flags it is a great day out for supporters of small teams, getting the chance to watch some of the players they see on MOTD and Sky. Good luck to them.
Sadly the players are never as up for it as they were in the 60s, when being an Internatial and Winning opened doors - doing telly adverts and earning a bit of money to supplement their, let's face it, relatively shit salaries. Under those circumstances playing for queen and country takes on a resonance. Some of those players did National Service and many would have lost family members in the war. Different times....very different. Those 66 boys would have been very proud. Especially given the opposition (all of it).
These days players are clearly aware that some clown from the thirld world, supplemented by Blatter and chums using their ill gotten gains, could quite easily end their career with a malicious or simply unskilled tackle. You have the media breathing all over you, poking fun at your missus' cellulite, and accusing you of virtual treason if you screw up. The fans of lower league teams become distraught. If I were an England player I would carefully do my best and keep my head down. The chances I would behave like Gazza are slim to none. And let's not forget, Gazza may be patriotic, but he is bat shit mental.
So for me, I'd take 3 points vs Chelsea in place of a WC win. Possibly even one point.
LowKarate
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I respect your passion for following England and 20 years ago I lived in such hope too.
Despite the recent youth team successes, our club game has been spoiled by money so much that I have zero expectation to see them translate to a future powerful adult side capable of winning The World Cup.
I would very happily see England succeed, but realistically that just isn't going to happen in my lifetime. Taking that into account, all that matters for me now is Brighton's success.
This is my personal view and is not influenced by popular opinion.
I'll say this, if we win the World Cup in my lifetime (let's say by 2050), remind me of this post and I'll buy you a beer or ten.
Absolutely no way. Brighton every time, not even close.
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blue-shifted
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What!!?? How can you prefer one more premier season over a World Cup win? Who remembers what Brighton did in the 1966 season? Nobody, without looking it up. England's world cup win will be talked about as long as there are football fans.
Winning a world cup would be the pinnacle of national sporting achievement. It could also go some way to heal some of the divisions within our nation
Winning a world cup would be the pinnacle of national sporting achievement. It could also go some way to heal some of the divisions within our nation
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Strewth, No !
A billion 'No' s.
Would take an England World Cup win if Palace had to get relegated though [emoji38]ol:
A billion 'No' s.
Would take an England World Cup win if Palace had to get relegated though [emoji38]ol:
CorgiRegisteredFriend
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Didn’t expect as many yes votes. For me an absolute no.
Gregory2Smith1
J'les aurai!
England all day long
I'd rather Brighton win the fa cup than stay up
Premier league it's all a bit meh
I'd rather Brighton win the fa cup than stay up
Premier league it's all a bit meh
Taybha
Whalewhine
Fk that .
¡Cereal Killer!
Whale Oil Beef Hooked
Would love to see England win the world cup, but would rather see Brighton stay up this year then in 4 years see Dunk and March lifting the World Cup 
TottonSeagull
Well-known member
Couldn’t give a toss about England. It is looking more and more unlikely either scenario will happen!
HantsSeagull
Well-known member
no - i was only 18 months old in 66 and i would love to see us win the world cup again. But I love my club more.
Sussexscots
3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 3, 3, 3, 3 ,3 ,3 3 coach chuggers
No. funnily enough.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,465
Yes, I want to experience it all
I can just about remember 66, it was great at the time, but, believe it for not, Wembley didn't sell out for the final.
For me, it's not that our national team have been pony most of my life, it's FIFA,the FA, the Wembley debacle, and yes, the shame of some of our national 'supporters ' during the 70s and 80s. It's feeling like players don't give a toss, it's Rooney slagging supporters in South Africa cos they dared to boo an awful performance, it's the press always building up the team as world beaters before tournaments, and then,crucifying them when they under achieve.
I loved 90, and 96, the country was so up for it for about 3 weeks, and then reality bit, and we lost the semi finals, but, instead of pushing on, the FA, and the gutterpress, got rid of the managers , and appointed men, quite honestly who were out of their depth, and then a succession of managers, both home grown and foreign, at vast expense, who seemed like they didn't have a clue.
All of the above is why I'm so disillusioned by England.
For me, it's not that our national team have been pony most of my life, it's FIFA,the FA, the Wembley debacle, and yes, the shame of some of our national 'supporters ' during the 70s and 80s. It's feeling like players don't give a toss, it's Rooney slagging supporters in South Africa cos they dared to boo an awful performance, it's the press always building up the team as world beaters before tournaments, and then,crucifying them when they under achieve.
I loved 90, and 96, the country was so up for it for about 3 weeks, and then reality bit, and we lost the semi finals, but, instead of pushing on, the FA, and the gutterpress, got rid of the managers , and appointed men, quite honestly who were out of their depth, and then a succession of managers, both home grown and foreign, at vast expense, who seemed like they didn't have a clue.
All of the above is why I'm so disillusioned by England.
chucky1973
New member
Absolutely NO. THE players who wear the white of England these days don't give one hoot abut the pride and passion of wearing it. It's all about the money. I wouldn't care if they lost all 3. I'd laugh in fact. Brighton are the only side that matters
nicko31
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The country needs a lift, much as I love the Albion the World Cup would be the ultimate and impossible dream