Amazing Motherwell's average attendance is lower than the average English League 2 attendance. Scottish football is incredibly tin pot...
My take on the current debacle of Albion chants: this is exactly the problem with our fans these days if you ask me. The internet.
If you think you've made up a good song, the WORST thing you can do is post it on here. It will sound 'cringeworth', 'tinpot', or more likely, 'shit'. Of course it will. it's an internet message board.
If you say to people "we're going to sing twist and shout at the next game" then the idea is ludicrous, and if you sing it in your head it's even worse. So don't bother.
Instead, get a bit pissed up and try and get it going with your mates at the football. If, and it's a big if, but if it's any good people WILL join in. There's plenty of examples out there over the years with a few standing out in particularly - namely who's that man from Argentina, Bennett/Buckley runs down the wing for me, Former Dutch Marine, Oh Gary Hart. In amongst this, there's simple, catchy chants - Pints of Whisky, Der der der der Adam Virgo, Inigo Calderon, LuaLua LuaLua etc. It is possible. We just don't seem very good at it, particularly when it comes to starting something about the team.
All you see these days is people, mainly teenagers you expect, watching clips on youtube and trying to make stuff up, posting it on here/social media and getting ridiculed for it if it doesn't quite scan. The mistake they've made? Posting it on the internet. Give it a go at a ground, and if it's any good a few people will join in - then you'll get people asking for the words on here naturally and the song will grow. Post it on here from the off asking for opinions and it will get slated, simple as that.
Not sure what happened to our fanbase, but I wonder if it's a result of us not having many teenage fans in the Withdean years and us having to wait for the kids from the family stand to grow up a bit and start boozing at matches (away in particular), but there seems to be a distinct lack of the average joe, happy to sink a few beers on the train and lead the singing in the ground. Instead, we're now somehow left with a minority mismatch of supporters who like singing and are part of the 'NSK clique' who aren't like- minded to the rest of the support and will sing whatever they feel like, being lead by the same individuals over and over. Their problem is they don't seem to realise when a song doesn't catch on and keep persisting with it, causing a muted atmosphere. Throw in an overwhelming desire for us to be like the fashionable 'ultras', you find a shoehorned mess of songs that are the current trend in this decision - like that Allly Ally Oh song and the 'team for me' thing everyone keeps singing. When you consider that these are essentially the only people who bother singing at games anymore, you have a problem - and as a result there's no noise at away games and the Amex is quieter than even Withdean.
It's no co-incidence that you keep finding the big clubs away fans plastered over the internet singing catchy songs - because not only do they have more fans, they have more fans willing to get battered and try stuff out in pubs and at away games.
So to summarise, get pissed, sing your songs at games and if they don't catch on, try something else. But for god sake don't try and get them going on the internet.
God, I can't believe I've wasted 5 minutes writing this.
Spot on!My take on the current debacle of Albion chants: this is exactly the problem with our fans these days if you ask me. The internet.
If you think you've made up a good song, the WORST thing you can do is post it on here. It will sound 'cringeworth', 'tinpot', or more likely, 'shit'. Of course it will. it's an internet message board.
If you say to people "we're going to sing twist and shout at the next game" then the idea is ludicrous, and if you sing it in your head it's even worse. So don't bother.
Instead, get a bit pissed up and try and get it going with your mates at the football. If, and it's a big if, but if it's any good people WILL join in. There's plenty of examples out there over the years with a few standing out in particularly - namely who's that man from Argentina, Bennett/Buckley runs down the wing for me, Former Dutch Marine, Oh Gary Hart. In amongst this, there's simple, catchy chants - Pints of Whisky, Der der der der Adam Virgo, Inigo Calderon, LuaLua LuaLua etc. It is possible. We just don't seem very good at it, particularly when it comes to starting something about the team.
All you see these days is people, mainly teenagers you expect, watching clips on youtube and trying to make stuff up, posting it on here/social media and getting ridiculed for it if it doesn't quite scan. The mistake they've made? Posting it on the internet. Give it a go at a ground, and if it's any good a few people will join in - then you'll get people asking for the words on here naturally and the song will grow. Post it on here from the off asking for opinions and it will get slated, simple as that.
Not sure what happened to our fanbase, but I wonder if it's a result of us not having many teenage fans in the Withdean years and us having to wait for the kids from the family stand to grow up a bit and start boozing at matches (away in particular), but there seems to be a distinct lack of the average joe, happy to sink a few beers on the train and lead the singing in the ground. Instead, we're now somehow left with a minority mismatch of supporters who like singing and are part of the 'NSK clique' who aren't like- minded to the rest of the support and will sing whatever they feel like, being lead by the same individuals over and over. Their problem is they don't seem to realise when a song doesn't catch on and keep persisting with it, causing a muted atmosphere. Throw in an overwhelming desire for us to be like the fashionable 'ultras', you find a shoehorned mess of songs that are the current trend in this decision - like that Allly Ally Oh song and the 'team for me' thing everyone keeps singing. When you consider that these are essentially the only people who bother singing at games anymore, you have a problem - and as a result there's no noise at away games and the Amex is quieter than even Withdean.
It's no co-incidence that you keep finding the big clubs away fans plastered over the internet singing catchy songs - because not only do they have more fans, they have more fans willing to get battered and try stuff out in pubs and at away games.
So to summarise, get pissed, sing your songs at games and if they don't catch on, try something else. But for god sake don't try and get them going on the internet.
God, I can't believe I've wasted 5 minutes writing this.
I totally agree. I actually posted it on purpose to see how many people would find a problem and be negative about it. I think we have some of the worst support going for just enjoying a game and singing, far too many precious fans.
We need some barmy army lot
I totally agree. I actually posted it on purpose to see how many people would find a problem and be negative about it. I think we have some of the worst support going for just enjoying a game and singing, far too many precious fans.
Long gone...We did have - the North Stand at the Goldstone........
Great research, have you nothing better to do?