Would you like to be "Gender Neutral"

[El Sid]

Citizens of Brighton and Hove may no longer be called Mr or Mrs under new plans.

All titles could be scrapped from official council forms and paperwork after transgender activists complained the names forced people to choose between genders.

The proposal, which has the backing of Brighton and Hove City Council’s deputy leader Phelim MacCafferty, has been branded “utterly ludicrous” by an opposition councillor.
It comes following an investigation by the council into the lives of the transgender community in the city.

The scrutiny panel is set to put forward a number of recommendations, including the scrapping of Mr and Mrs, to the council for approval in December.
He said: “Trans people aren’t necessarily male or female and sometimes they don’t want to be defined by their gender.

Steph Scott, an LGBT activist who defines herself as ‘genderqueer’ – neither male nor female – described the titles Mr and Mrs as “extremely outdated”.

She said: “Being called Mr or Mrs forces me to choose between genders.
“It’s assuming people live in a binary world where you’re either one thing or another and it pigeonholes people.

“I think it’s a good idea to expand across the city because it’s about getting people to be aware that gender isn’t just male or female.”

The activist said Brighton and Hove City Council had already started addressing people by the gender-neutral title 'Mx' on their tax forms.


How would you like to be addressed?

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

That is patently madness, just be who you want to be and stop making a f***ing song and dance about it.

 

[Napper]

will still be Mr , Mrs and It's

 

[beorhthelm]

"Being called Mr or Mrs forces me to choose between genders."
"It’s assuming people live in a binary world where you’re either one thing or another and it pigeonholes people."

yep. because we do live in a binary world on this. its the LGBT societies of this world that are pigeonholing, making additional little groups in which to place some. for 99.99% of the population (probably generous) they are either one or the other.

 

[The Large One]

I've no issue with other people wishing to be addressed in a third or 'gender neutral' (whatever that might entail); just don't drag the rest of us (the aforementioned 99.9%) into it.

Having said that, I hate being addressed (verbally) as 'Mr. ....'. I prefer my first name EVERY time.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Glad to see the Greens spending B&H taxpayers dough in such a valiant cause. I have real problems with "Big Brother" wanting to know what gender I am!!

 

[albion534]

Seriously, who cares, just make it

MR
Mrs
Weirdo?

What's the problem

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Phelim MacCafferty?

Are you El Presidente in disguise?

 

[Tricky Dicky]

F*cking ridiculous. What's next, we can't have names at all. "Oh, no, you can't be called Brian, you're discriminating against anyone not called Brian".

 

[happypig]

I would imagine that >95% of Brighton people are quite happy being referred to as Mr or Mrs. For the small minority who don't want it, give them a gender neutral title (and let them spend their own money to find out what it should be).

Some days I'm glad I don't live in Brighton any more

 

[The Large One]

Interesting thing about the report.

Steph Scott describes herself as 'genderqueer' (i.e. gender neutral), but unless the report calls her 'it', the English language can't cope with the personal pronoun, the reflexive pronoun, nor the possessive pronoun issues of a 'genderqueer'.

Oh, and the first line is mis-leading nonsense. Of course people will still be called 'Mr' and 'Mrs' etc.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

absolute madness, example of how minority rules in this country, no common sense anymore and it always makes me laugh how some small group in certain minorities such as SOME vegetarians,transgender etc always say "we want to be treated the same" but then cause a fuss bringing attention onto themselves in a negative light because despite being treated the same they actually want something more or some sort of recognision for not being the norm, wankers!!!! (not a dig at any specific group just small numbers within, I myself am a vege)

 

[The Large One]

I would imagine that >95% of Brighton people are quite happy being referred to as Mr or Mrs. For the small minority who don't want it, give them a gender neutral title (and let them spend their own money to find out what it should be).

Some days I'm glad I don't live in Brighton any more

They already have - it said so in the report.

Doubt it cost much to implement, mind.

 

[sydney]

absolute ballax...!

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Idiots and know nothings! They even use as an example 'Why do I have to have Mr on my debit card?' The answer of course is to assist in fraud prevention. If a woman presents a card with Mr on it, it probably isn't her card!

 

[Mackenzie]

What a laugh. Evolution eh!



We're all going to end up mixed race (is that the PC term these days?) hermaphrodites. Its a brave new World.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

Idiots and know nothings! They even use as an example 'Why do I have to have Mr on my debit card?' The answer of course is to assist in fraud prevention. If a woman presents a card with Mr on it, it probably isn't her card!

But you are forgetting in you example that the woman who stole it may not wish to be known as a woman, but rather a "transgender theiving scumbag" or maybe even go as mental as Prince went and be known by just a symbol

 

[Billy the Fish]

Was anyone even aware of a problem with the current system until they read this?

Stuff like this makes me suspicious of the motives of these LBGT groups. There's nowhere else in the country where you are more accepted and allowed to fit in than in Brighton. Nobody bats an eyelid if you're different, eccentric or a tranny so why not just get on with your lives like everyone else? (as I'm sure the majority do)

It's just attention seeking, and probably counter productive. As someone else said, they've spent years trying not to be pigeon-holed and just accepted like everyone else, now they want their own different pigeon-hole

 

[The Large One]

Idiots and know nothings! They even use as an example 'Why do I have to have Mr on my debit card?' The answer of course is to assist in fraud prevention. If a woman presents a card with Mr on it, it probably isn't her card!

Really? My credit card doesn't have 'MR' on it. Are you going to be as hate-filled and bilious as TCB and refer to me as a freak? Knock yourself out.

Fact is, it's the LGBT community being a little bit silly, resulting in this non-story which has been written in order to get people's knickers in a twist, and it's succeeded. This process would have cost the council very little - if anything - and has nothing to do with the vast majority of people.