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Would you change your referendum vote?

Would you change your referendum vote?

  • Yes! I would change my vote

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • No! I wouldn't change my Vote

    Votes: 270 96.4%
  • I won't vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • My mind has been changed but i am sticking with my original vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    280
  • Poll closed .






alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Yes feckwit, they did offer us an out, and yes we chose to continue fighting. Happy to accept that as fact, never disputed it.
What I maintain, and you now deny, is that you offered it as an option we could have taken and that would have been in British best self interest to take. The inference being that by refusing we are the heroes of Europe and they should all bloody well remember where they would be without us.

I will apologise for the other portion you highlight, nowhere have you said exactly what I have accused you of, so let me rephrase it.
I am disgusted by your belief that no other European Nation sacrificed as much as we did, in that other nations who count their dead, in greater numbers than us, sacrificed less than us, because they had no choice.
I repeat, France declared War on Germany when we did, it was not under direct attack. France lost far more than us, so even in your narrow definition of sacrifice you are wrong.
I repeat, Britain had conscription starting in 1939 and throughout the second World war, so our soldiers had little choice, and I ask you again, in your definition of sacrifice, do the conscripted soldiers of Britain who died count?
I dont ''now'' deny it at all, ive never said it or implied it.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Back tracking again. If it walks like an insult and if it looks like an insult it is an insult.

Apologies to any ducks for paraphrasing
I havent backtacked a single time , so how can i be doing it again ?
 




studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
No it was his general demeanour , failure to make eye contact and his whispering to the other person in the group, which i later found out was an instruction not to let me know who he was , as i said , strange.

Which ever other person than you would no doubt just see it as shyness
 






studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
As i said , I havent backtracked at all , can you just let me know where i have to clear this up ?

If you can't be bothered to look thats down to you. I'm watching Kent v Sussex so have far better things to do that ne entertained my you during your day out.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
I dont ''now'' deny it at all, ive never said it or implied it.

Glasfryn said. "that was not the point I was trying to make, we still had to go over there and save them
imagine if we had not done that"

I said "So it was not in Britains self interests at all? "


Feckwit alfredmizen said.

"The Germans offered us an armistice, they would have europe, we would keep the empire, we turned them down. "

From this, I somehow got the impression that you believed we went against the best self interest of accepting Hitlers deal, and carried on fighting for the sakes of everyone but us.

I might be mad, but that is what you meant isn't it? If not, what did you mean by it?
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
If you can't be bothered to look thats down to you. I'm watching Kent v Sussex so have far better things to do that ne entertained my you during your day out.
Basically you cant , and have fallen back on the tried and tested ''im watching the cricket/football/anything to avoid admitting i cant'' excuse.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Glasfryn said. "that was not the point I was trying to make, we still had to go over there and save them
imagine if we had not done that"

I said "So it was not in Britains self interests at all? "


Feckwit alfredmizen said.

"The Germans offered us an armistice, they would have europe, we would keep the empire, we turned them down. "

From this, I somehow got the impression that you believed we went against the best self interest of accepting Hitlers deal, and carried on fighting for the sakes of everyone but us.

I might be mad, but that is what you meant isn't it? If not, what did you mean by it?
Correct, you probably are, I've already explained i used that to highlight our CHOICE in deciding to fight.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
Correct, you probably are, I've already explained i used that to highlight our CHOICE in deciding to fight.

Yeah Ok feckwit, course you did. You know, I know, and anyone who reads it can see.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Yeah Ok feckwit, course you did. You know, I know, and anyone who reads it can see.
Thats just it , you dont know , youre obviously not bright enough to read the meaning of what i said , and while youre at it , if you want to call me a f*ckwit , why not use an asterisk and be done with it instead of using silly replacements like a 14 year old schoolgirl................... you c*nt.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
Thats just it , you dont know , youre obviously not bright enough to read the meaning of what i said , and while youre at it , if you want to call me a f*ckwit , why not use an asterisk and be done with it instead of using silly replacements like a 14 year old schoolgirl................... you c*nt.

Well done anoter insult from you in this thread, or are you now gaing to say its not its just an observation.
 








alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Innings break Post 83 in response to post 82 then 149

Now watching the Sussex innings so leave you to your insults/observations
That isnt backtracking in any way shape or form , neither of them, you absolute clown.
 




studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
That isnt backtracking in any way shape or form , neither of them, you absolute clown.

Yes it is

You are given example of human sacrifice and comment about your definition if sacrifice thereby stating that the russians who died had not sacrificed anything. Then later you say of course there was human sacrifice.

As you have done throughout this thread you always say yes and although everyone else says no you stick with yes then either ignore questions as they prove you are wrong ir throw insults aboutm

You must be fun in a pub quiz when your answer gets markd as wrong as there must follow a lengthy rant as to why you are right followed by insults sorry observations.
 




glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
That was the price that was paid. Not the result that was sought.
I am not going to try and give you a history lesson, and there are differing views, but Britain, acted in what it believed, rightly or wrongly, were it's best interests at the time, it was not an altruistic action purely for the benefit of other European nation states.

surely there was and are differing views
the rich and well off thought that we were teflon and it would be over in weeks (they were not fighting the war)
probably a bad analogy but here goes the England and Iceland game, one good blow and we thought we had won it, but alas the other team were stronger in mind than us and had more powerful weapons and unlike the England football team we got stronger when we knew what we were up against
it took nearly a million men
I just hope that they the Europeans do not forget that
 


Iggle Piggle

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2010
5,955
Marvellous stuff. 2 blokes in a pub who nod 'alright mate' to each other turns into one with Anger management issues and another with autism coz he's driving. Must have been a lager shandy.

Carry on. During the war....
 


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