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[Football] Worst Pundit on England













Lethargic

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
Sutton is about my favourite, especially when he's with 'Bruce', although the interaction with Chappers is similarly entertaining. As much as he revels in being a wind-up merchant and plugs false binaries, his analysis is pretty sharp. The likes of Neville are more incisive but, as an all-round package, Sutton is right up there.
I agree Sutton is not too bad he is willing to divert from the standard agenda and disagree with the normal drones. He can be a bit annoying but all least he is worth a listen unlike 99% of the dross we have to listen to.

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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,130
Faversham
Once you get past the comedy South London accent and the habit of saying, "To be fair," all the time, Clinton Morrison is actually pretty good and occasionally genuinely insightful.

For me the number one is Pat Nevin.

Yes, he's very good. He was a mate of John Peel's back in the day.

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I am happy with most of them, to be fair.

When it comes to commentary, nobody beats Alan Green. He brought real drama and excitement to commentary. I just looked him up - I hadn't realised he'd actually been sacked! Wow :mad::down:

"One of the best known voices in sports broadcasting is leaving the BBC after 45 years.

Belfast-born Alan Green (67), who is regarded as one of the most distinctive commentators in the history of BBC radio, is being phased out and will not have his contract with BBC 5Live renewed when it runs out this summer.

"They have shown me very little respect in how that is ending. I feel a mixture of disappointment and anger. I don't think it's justified," said Mr Green, a former pupil of Methodist College, who began to commentate on televised games in 2014.

He told The Times: "I was basically told: 'You don't fit our profile'. I got a fair idea of what they meant by just listening to the output over the last year or so.

"There isn't an ageist, sexist, racist bone in my body. I only care about 'can somebody do the job?' There are new people in favour. They match the requirements in terms of 'bants' - banter with presenters."

Green, winner of a Sony Award as Sports Broadcaster of the Year, is the latest casualty of the BBC's much-debated changes.

Green said the loss of news-breaking shows on 5Live like the Sunday morning staple Sportsweek, which he described as "a much-respected programme that was discarded", was a major blow.

"It's not the organisation I loved for so many years," he continued.

In a parting shot, he warned that the BBC is losing too many good broadcasters in the pursuit of change.

"I hear about the departure of Mark Pougatch, an absolutely outstanding presenter, and I'm really pleased that he is valued by so many other people that he probably doesn't notice not doing 5Live any more," he said.

"Certain people have been discarded wrongly in pursuit of change.

"That's OK if it is thought through and it works, but I'm not sure it is working."

Source: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...ows-him-the-door-after-45-years-39031014.html
 








Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,773
Fiveways
Yes, he's very good. He was a mate of John Peel's back in the day.

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I am happy with most of them, to be fair.

When it comes to commentary, nobody beats Alan Green. He brought real drama and excitement to commentary. I just looked him up - I hadn't realised he'd actually been sacked! Wow :mad::down:

"One of the best known voices in sports broadcasting is leaving the BBC after 45 years.

Belfast-born Alan Green (67), who is regarded as one of the most distinctive commentators in the history of BBC radio, is being phased out and will not have his contract with BBC 5Live renewed when it runs out this summer.

"They have shown me very little respect in how that is ending. I feel a mixture of disappointment and anger. I don't think it's justified," said Mr Green, a former pupil of Methodist College, who began to commentate on televised games in 2014.

He told The Times: "I was basically told: 'You don't fit our profile'. I got a fair idea of what they meant by just listening to the output over the last year or so.

"There isn't an ageist, sexist, racist bone in my body. I only care about 'can somebody do the job?' There are new people in favour. They match the requirements in terms of 'bants' - banter with presenters."

Green, winner of a Sony Award as Sports Broadcaster of the Year, is the latest casualty of the BBC's much-debated changes.

Green said the loss of news-breaking shows on 5Live like the Sunday morning staple Sportsweek, which he described as "a much-respected programme that was discarded", was a major blow.

"It's not the organisation I loved for so many years," he continued.

In a parting shot, he warned that the BBC is losing too many good broadcasters in the pursuit of change.

"I hear about the departure of Mark Pougatch, an absolutely outstanding presenter, and I'm really pleased that he is valued by so many other people that he probably doesn't notice not doing 5Live any more," he said.

"Certain people have been discarded wrongly in pursuit of change.

"That's OK if it is thought through and it works, but I'm not sure it is working."

Source: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...ows-him-the-door-after-45-years-39031014.html

You never know, you might tune into GB News and find Alan Green there, ensuring that a certain word features in every other sentence.
I've just been listening to Al Green, who I'd suggest is a stark improvement :thumbsup:
 


Robinjakarta

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2014
2,163
Jakarta
When it comes to commentary, nobody beats Alan Green. He brought real drama and excitement to commentary. I just looked him up - I hadn't realised he'd actually been sacked! Wow :mad::down:

"One of the best known voices in sports broadcasting is leaving the BBC after 45 years.

Belfast-born Alan Green (67), who is regarded as one of the most distinctive commentators in the history of BBC radio, is being phased out and will not have his contract with BBC 5Live renewed when it runs out this summer.

"They have shown me very little respect in how that is ending. I feel a mixture of disappointment and anger. I don't think it's justified," said Mr Green, a former pupil of Methodist College, who began to commentate on televised games in 2014.

He told The Times: "I was basically told: 'You don't fit our profile'. I got a fair idea of what they meant by just listening to the output over the last year or so.

"There isn't an ageist, sexist, racist bone in my body. I only care about 'can somebody do the job?' There are new people in favour. They match the requirements in terms of 'bants' - banter with presenters."

Green, winner of a Sony Award as Sports Broadcaster of the Year, is the latest casualty of the BBC's much-debated changes.

Green said the loss of news-breaking shows on 5Live like the Sunday morning staple Sportsweek, which he described as "a much-respected programme that was discarded", was a major blow.

"It's not the organisation I loved for so many years," he continued.

In a parting shot, he warned that the BBC is losing too many good broadcasters in the pursuit of change.

"I hear about the departure of Mark Pougatch, an absolutely outstanding presenter, and I'm really pleased that he is valued by so many other people that he probably doesn't notice not doing 5Live any more," he said.

"Certain people have been discarded wrongly in pursuit of change.

"That's OK if it is thought through and it works, but I'm not sure it is working."

Source: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...ows-him-the-door-after-45-years-39031014.html

Alan Green ruffled a lot of feathers of the often thin-skinned and wasn't exactly a leader of the PC Brigade. More like a certain Mr BC. Pity he seems in the broadcasting wilderness now. With his very listenable voice, the way he connects with his listeners and deep knowledge of the game, he is/was a great commentator. Can't say that about many (any?) others of the current lot.
 




herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,653
Still in Brighton
BBC1's coverage of the opening game was a dull as ditch water, Shearer being the blandest of the bland.

Other than the already mentioned Ally McCoist, Dion Dublin is my favourite as I find he gives interesting insight, often about the type of finish needed (both on the pitch and when decorating your house) or on technique. I would agree that there should be far fewer ex players and maybe more journos. Or maybe the odd celeb - I did enjoy a young Robbie Williams during one tournament moons ago..... and I can't believe I just typed that...
 


McTavish

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2014
1,587
Alan Green ruffled a lot of feathers of the often thin-skinned and wasn't exactly a leader of the PC Brigade. More like a certain Mr BC. Pity he seems in the broadcasting wilderness now. With his very listenable voice, the way he connects with his listeners and deep knowledge of the game, he is/was a great commentator. Can't say that about many (any?) others of the current lot.
I think he was well past his best. Towards the end he just seemed to moan constantly about everyone and everything whilst continually making errors himself. I found him completely un-listenable.
 


Solid at the back

Well-known member
Sep 1, 2010
2,732
Glorious Shoreham by Sea
I think he was well past his best. Towards the end he just seemed to moan constantly about everyone and everything whilst continually making errors himself. I found him completely un-listenable.

I agree, I thought he was pretty good on 5live around 15 years ago. Mike Ingham on the other hand was an excellent commentator, such a shame he retired.
 








drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
23,616
Burgess Hill
Yes, he's very good. He was a mate of John Peel's back in the day.

View attachment 137592

I am happy with most of them, to be fair.

When it comes to commentary, nobody beats Alan Green. He brought real drama and excitement to commentary. I just looked him up - I hadn't realised he'd actually been sacked! Wow :mad::down:

"One of the best known voices in sports broadcasting is leaving the BBC after 45 years.

Belfast-born Alan Green (67), who is regarded as one of the most distinctive commentators in the history of BBC radio, is being phased out and will not have his contract with BBC 5Live renewed when it runs out this summer.

"They have shown me very little respect in how that is ending. I feel a mixture of disappointment and anger. I don't think it's justified," said Mr Green, a former pupil of Methodist College, who began to commentate on televised games in 2014.

He told The Times: "I was basically told: 'You don't fit our profile'. I got a fair idea of what they meant by just listening to the output over the last year or so.

"There isn't an ageist, sexist, racist bone in my body. I only care about 'can somebody do the job?' There are new people in favour. They match the requirements in terms of 'bants' - banter with presenters."

Green, winner of a Sony Award as Sports Broadcaster of the Year, is the latest casualty of the BBC's much-debated changes.

Green said the loss of news-breaking shows on 5Live like the Sunday morning staple Sportsweek, which he described as "a much-respected programme that was discarded", was a major blow.

"It's not the organisation I loved for so many years," he continued.

In a parting shot, he warned that the BBC is losing too many good broadcasters in the pursuit of change.

"I hear about the departure of Mark Pougatch, an absolutely outstanding presenter, and I'm really pleased that he is valued by so many other people that he probably doesn't notice not doing 5Live any more," he said.

"Certain people have been discarded wrongly in pursuit of change.

"That's OK if it is thought through and it works, but I'm not sure it is working."

Source: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...ows-him-the-door-after-45-years-39031014.html

Personally, never could stand the bloke. Use to spend the first 15 minutes of the second half moaning about all the empty seats!! Well I guess as a broadcaster, he's never had to queue for his half time pint or cuppa.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
25,926
I think commentary is an old art which has been lost in this lowest common denominator, celebrity product that we have now. Oh to here Bryon Butler and Peter Jones again. Green always seemed pretty abrupt, but is certainly in the top league.

I noticed it more in cricket as that's where most of my listening is. It's the ex-players that are worse (although Atherton and Hussain are pretty good, especially now Botham seems to have gone).

It does seem better when there is just a single commentator involved rather than the two. Less idle chat.
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
the standard of punditry and commentary has just about bottomed out.....getting players names wrong an offering endless , pointless ,statistical bollox at the expense of commentating on the game. i wish hale and pace would do a comedy commentary every weekend offering information about players like " nobody wants to share a room with him because he snores so bad", " his wife is a really noisy root" or " has a tattoo of a telephone box on his arse" y'know ...? stuff like that
 


DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
6,818
Wiltshire
Micah Richards - I can’t think of one interesting thing he’s ever said. And he’s not as funny as he thinks he is.
Roy Keane / Chris Sutton - sharp wit, very entertaining.
Jermain Jenas - very good all round pundit and broadcaster.
 


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