[Football] World Cup Final, Croatia v France 2018

[Worried Man Blues]

Those twats in the studio won't say CHEATS cowards

 

[bluenitsuj]

It was a penalty. Get over it and move on.

 

[TomandJerry]

They are all convinced it's not a handball in the studio

 

[kelownaseagull]

They have Howard Webb on Canadian TV, reckons no penalty.

Also showed Griezmann, he was off his feet and going down before touched.

 

[drew]

I don't agree it was deliberate.

That is of course your opinion. Mine differs and the reason is that his hand moves down the the ball and his knee moves up to create a bigger block . They stated he was too close to the other player but the flight of the ball was hardly altered by the French player so the Croatian has watched the flight of the ball pretty much from the corner.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

His other arm was also coming down, it's what arms do!

With an open hand! Soft penalty, but right.

 

[Wilko]

They are all convinced it's not a handball in the studio

No they are not, they are not convinced it was deliberate.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

With an open hand! Soft penalty, but right.

Why would an open hand or fist make any difference?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Why would an open hand or fist make any difference?

Because he slapped the ball onto his leg. If it hit his wrist the deflection would have been different.

 

[Deadly Danson]

That is of course your opinion. Mine differs and the reason is that his hand moves down the the ball and his knee moves up to create a bigger block . They stated he was too close to the other player but the flight of the ball was hardly altered by the French player so the Croatian has watched the flight of the ball pretty much from the corner.

Again, the fact that we all have different opinions would indicate its not clear and obvious. As was the amount of time the ref took to review it. I've seen penalties given for less but that's not the point of VAR.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Great save.

 

[Icy Gull]

****ing Croatian love in from the BBC pundits, the Croatian for me he did deliberately bring his hand down. Shearer made it sound like outright cheating, ****.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Because he slapped the ball onto his leg. If it hit his wrist the deflection would have been different.

Wrist or hand, is irrelevant, intent is the point

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I hope louvren kicks Giroud off the pitch.
Giroud just has that Mark Hughes style I so dislike in a striker.

 

[TomandJerry]

Pitch invaders!

 

[KZNSeagull]

It looked more instinctive than deliberate to me. It was certainly much more of a penalty than those ones earlier in the tournament where defenders headed the ball onto their own hands. His hand did move a long way. Correct decision for me.

The free kick for the first goal is more controversial I would say. As in it was clearly a dive.

Enrest is on the pitch now.

 

[studio150]

Pitch invasion, if they're lucky just a 20 year prison stay looming

 

[TomandJerry]

Pitch invasion, if they're lucky just a 20 year prison stay looming

Putin has his boys waiting for them in the back street....

 

[Worried Man Blues]

It looked more instinctive than deliberate to me. It was certainly much more of a penalty than those ones earlier in the tournament where defenders headed the ball onto their own hands. His hand did move a long way. Correct decision for me.

The free kick for the first goal is more controversial I would say. As in it was clearly a dive.

Enrest is on the pitch now.

It has to be intentive not instinctive, I missed Unrest, damn

 

[KZNSeagull]

It has to be intentive not instinctive, I missed Unrest, damn

It does, but to instictively stop the ball with your hand can be interpreted as deliberate. If his hand had not moved, no pen, but he bought his hand down from almost shoulder height. If a goalie had done that, it would have been hailed as a great save, rather than lucky.