[Albion] Women’s Football

[Me and my Monkey]

So it’s moved on from ‘don’t comment if you haven’t watched it’ to now ‘well you’ve watched it but you deliberately didn’t enjoy it’. Perhaps I should be forced to enjoy it somehow?

With food / drinks / travel I must have spent close to £100 last night for a family of 4. Maybe I’m different to you, but I don’t tend to give up my Friday evening to spend £100 and have my kids go to bed late for something I was hoping I wouldn’t enjoy. That would seem a very odd thing to do. I also covered this in the original post, but you clearly didn’t read it properly and just jumped on the ‘misogynistic evil man’ line. Which as @Stumpy Tim says, is part of the problem with women’s football.

Go and stand in the corner.

Well, I've re-read your first post and all I get from it is a bloke who thinks that lady sized goals and pitches will solve the problem. I don't agree. Both teams play on the same sized pitch with the same sized goals, so it's a level playing field. The problem in my opinion is that women have been discouraged from playing football by the menfolk for many, many decades, and it is only in recent years that girls are really getting back into it. So it's going to take time for the levels to improve. It really is a different sport, stop trying to compare it, and give it time (or not, if it's really not your thing). I assume you still went to watch the Albion when they were floundering about the bottom of league 2 even though they were a bit crap? I went along yesterday to support an Albion team, I thought we were unlucky to come away with nothing, there was some great football, and also some sloppy football. Of course there needs to be much improvement, and hopefully with the vision and support of PBOBE and TBMBE this will happen, and those that enjoy the game will be rewarded.

Go and stand in your corner, and put on the dunce's cap.

 

[Commander]

Well, I've re-read your first post and all I get from it is a bloke who thinks that lady sized goals and pitches will solve the problem. I don't agree. Both teams play on the same sized pitch with the same sized goals, so it's a level playing field. The problem in my opinion is that women have been discouraged from playing football by the menfolk for many, many decades, and it is only in recent years that girls are really getting back into it. So it's going to take time for the levels to improve. It really is a different sport, stop trying to compare it, and give it time (or not, if it's really not your thing). I assume you still went to watch the Albion when they were floundering about the bottom of league 2 even though they were a bit crap? I went along yesterday to support an Albion team, I thought we were unlucky to come away with nothing, there was some great football, and also some sloppy football. Of course there needs to be much improvement, and hopefully with the vision and support of PBOBE and TBMBE this will happen, and those that enjoy the game will be rewarded.

Go and stand in your corner, and put on the dunce's cap.

You are correct of course, I should put on a dunce’s cap for not following the approved viewpoint on women’s football. I must remember to think how I am told to think in future.

 

[Me and my Monkey]

You are correct of course, I should put on a dunce’s cap for not following the approved viewpoint on women’s football. I must remember to think how I am told to think in future.

Good boy.

 

[Exilegull]

Presumably you don’t have kids that play football? As I can tell you that in the hundreds of thousands of villages and cities across the country, the pitch and goal size changes 4 times before the kids are 12. In fact, I am standing on Lindfield Common right now watching 3 separate teams train, with 3 separate pitch and goal sizes.

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So again, what you say is complete nonsense- it’s already being done, and has been for years.

Yes and like I said you can do it in Snobfield or Pompshire but enforcing it globally is a different fiver. You think the average Rwandan or Ivorian second division team has access to several grass pitches in different sizes and a wealth of goals to go along with it? There is a world outside your bum hole you know

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Good boy.

The problem is, if there aren't people questioning how to improve the spectacle then the attendances won't rise and unfortunately it will decline again. The game has never been so popular... Now is the time to question how to improve things.

I'm sure there are smarter people outside NSC who could look at it. Having said that, these are the people that brought us the latest handball rule and VAR

 

[Guinness Boy]

So I went along to the Albion Women’s game for the first time last night. I was expecting to come away saying saying ‘fair play, the standard really has come on, I was surprised by how good the football was’.

I didn’t. I thought it was awful. I’m sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I thought the standard was dreadful, the atmosphere absolutely crap, and the whole thing a total waste of everybody’s time.*

I’ve said it before, but why on Earth do women play on a full size pitch with full sized goals? It makes no sense at all. An average Premier League keeper must be at least 6”5. The average women’s keeper must be almost a foot shorter. How is that fair? The old thing about women goalkeepers being rubbish is harsh, because they are playing in goals that are far too big for them. It’s the same with the pitches, they can’t play the same passes the men can and they can’t shoot from distance because they can’t hit the ball hard enough. People say ‘it’s a different’ game and it is, but why should it have to be?

And before anybody cries sexism / misogyny etc, women tee off from different tees in golf, play less sets in tennis etc. Football should be adapted for women to make it more like football, rather than the watered down, weird version of the sport I saw last night.


I’ll be sticking to Haywards Heath Town or Lewes for my non-Albion football fix from now on, but I can’t be the only person who thinks the women’s game has it all wrong?




*except mine, as I got to meet Guy Butters.

I think you make some good points.

I went to the England v New Zealand game at the Amex and haven’t been back to a women’s game since. I have a limited amount of time I can watch football without the wife divorcing me so I choose to watch the men’s game I prefer.

Does that mean I think women shouldn’t play? Absolutely not. There’s an audience for it. It just doesn’t include me. It’s a shame the BBC er al can’t acknowledge that.

I’ve also been to quite a few women’s cricket T20s. They’re good fun. But - guess what - on bigger grounds they bring the boundary rope in. I prefer women’s tennis to men’s. It’s more skilful and there’s more tension in the shorter format.

With a couple of tweaks the women’s game could genuinely earn the exposure it gets. At the moment it doesn’t.

 

[Exilegull]

You are correct of course, I should put on a dunce’s cap for not following the approved viewpoint on women’s football. I must remember to think how I am told to think in future.

I dont have the approved viewpoint on cricket. My magic solution is to avoid watching it and then avoid complaining about it.
You spent £100 to go watch a game you knew were going to have the same pitch and goal dimensions you have a personal problem with, because according to you general media and the Brighton PR team somehow forced you to go and watch it. Then you go home and complain about the goal and pitch dimensions you knew about before you even bought the tickets. And now you appear to be surprised that people find it dumb and laughable

 

[Simster]

This is the type of Andrew Tate like incel stuff Twitter is flooded with. Going to tell you the same things I tell them. Will try not to be too harsh as you need to have bad self esteem to be offended by women getting more publicity.
If media and Albion push you to go watch women´s football, you still don´t have to do it. Grow a pair and make independent decisions. They have a product you can get it or avoid it. You went to a game and came back to tell us it was boring because the goals are too big and there´s too many like you in the crowd. Good on you going there to get your belittling POV confirmed just like you wanted time well spent and not at all pathetic. You must really feel like a big boy now lol.

You think you're being clever posting stuff like this. You're not, you're an absolute simpleton. Comparing @Commander to Andrew Tait FFS. What an absolute cretin.

 

[Commander]

Yes and like I said you can do it in Snobfield or Pompshire but enforcing it globally is a different fiver. You think the average Rwandan or Ivorian second division team has access to several grass pitches in different sizes and a wealth of goals to go along with it? There is a world outside your bum hole you know

What is your knowledge of Ivorian 2nd division women’s football? Tell us more about it.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yes and like I said you can do it in Snobfield or Pompshire but enforcing it globally is a different fiver. You think the average Rwandan or Ivorian second division team has access to several grass pitches in different sizes and a wealth of goals to go along with it? There is a world outside your bum hole you know

IP address in Sweden?

Hates De Zerbi?

Gets upset by people being negative over women’s football?

On the political threads?

Posting all day despite being a workaholic?

Makes ridiculous statements like the one above?

Has to have the last word?

Tick tock.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well, I've re-read your first post and all I get from it is a bloke who thinks that lady sized goals and pitches will solve the problem. I don't agree. Both teams play on the same sized pitch with the same sized goals, so it's a level playing field. The problem in my opinion is that women have been discouraged from playing football by the menfolk for many, many decades, and it is only in recent years that girls are really getting back into it. So it's going to take time for the levels to improve. It really is a different sport, stop trying to compare it, and give it time (or not, if it's really not your thing). I assume you still went to watch the Albion when they were floundering about the bottom of league 2 even though they were a bit crap? I went along yesterday to support an Albion team, I thought we were unlucky to come away with nothing, there was some great football, and also some sloppy football. Of course there needs to be much improvement, and hopefully with the vision and support of PBOBE and TBMBE this will happen, and those that enjoy the game will be rewarded.

Go and stand in your corner, and put on the dunce's cap.

Different sport. Yes.

When I watch a bit of Championship footy on TV, as I do, once I have recalibrated (it is a different sport from EPL) I can watch and enjoy. Without criticizing the higher frequency of misplaced passes than I am 'used to'.

Same deal for the other leagues all the way to Conference. I struggle to get my TV footy companion, Bob the retired social worker to engage with the adjustment, but he always gets into the game after 10 minutes or so. Even the cloud-scraping escapades in tiers 4 and 5.

And yes, standards improve. Women's football is a must-watch now (albeit EPL always takes preference if there is a clash, unless it is England women). Likewise we watched Oxford vs Stevenage (men) in tier 3 last night and the standard was amazing. Pit either of them against tier 3 when I started going to the Albion (late 60s) and the Albion would have lost by more than 10 goals.

Sorry, I have jumped into a conversation, and my only point really is that I agree - different leagues of football, whether EPL, EFL or WPL are effectively different sports, and all deliver great enjoyment, if you want it, and there is ongoing improvement everywhere.

 

[Commander]

IP address in Sweden?

Hates De Zerbi?

Gets upset by people being negative over women’s football?

On the political threads?

Posting all day despite being a workaholic?

Makes ridiculous statements like the one above?

Has to have the last word?

Tick tock.

Ha!

Also really doesn’t like me for my ‘bullying’ of poor Aaron Connolly. All adds up.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think you make some good points.

I went to the England v New Zealand game at the Amex and haven’t been back to a women’s game since. I have a limited amount of time I can watch football without the wife divorcing me so I choose to watch the men’s game I prefer.

Does that mean I think women shouldn’t play? Absolutely not. There’s an audience for it. It just doesn’t include me. It’s a shame the BBC er al can’t acknowledge that.

I’ve also been to quite a few women’s cricket T20s. They’re good fun. But - guess what - on bigger grounds they bring the boundary rope in. I prefer women’s tennis to men’s. It’s more skilful and there’s more tension in the shorter format.

With a couple of tweaks the women’s game could genuinely earn the exposure it gets. At the moment it doesn’t.

All I can say is that I probably have a lot more time on my hands than you, so I have crossed the enjoyment rubicon into regions you'll probably never venture till you get to my age. There is a danger I may even start watching cricket* soon

*kidding! I'd rather go for a walk with Captain Oates.

 

[dazzer6666]

All makes sense. Except I’m not comparing the to Premier League players. I watched Lewes beat Horsham on Tuesday night, the standard there was far, far superior.

Why compare it ?

 

[Diablo]

That has always been my view. But the way it has been pushed and pushed and pushed by the Albion and the media in general suggests otherwise. Giving almost equal coverage to a sport that brings in a tiny percentage of the viewing figures and revenue is hugely disproportionate, and suggests that the opposite is what the aim is- they want everyone to watch it.

I made some comments on here a while back about women’s football and was told that until I bothered to go along to a game and watch it, my opinion wasn’t valid. Which I thought was as a very fair point. So I did, and it was crap.

A well thought-out, reasoned argument against all the points I raised for discussion. Thank you for your input.

I think you make some good points.

I went to the England v New Zealand game at the Amex and haven’t been back to a women’s game since. I have a limited amount of time I can watch football without the wife divorcing me so I choose to watch the men’s game I prefer.

Does that mean I think women shouldn’t play? Absolutely not. There’s an audience for it. It just doesn’t include me. It’s a shame the BBC er al can’t acknowledge that.

I’ve also been to quite a few women’s cricket T20s. They’re good fun. But - guess what - on bigger grounds they bring the boundary rope in. I prefer women’s tennis to men’s. It’s more skilful and there’s more tension in the shorter format.

With a couple of tweaks the women’s game could genuinely earn the exposure it gets. At the moment it doesn’t.

Think you are being over generous. How with a couple of tweaks(what would you suggest? )Could the womens game earn the exposure it gets??

 

[Exilegull]

IP address in Sweden?

Hates De Zerbi?

Gets upset by people being negative over women’s football?

On the political threads?

Posting all day despite being a workaholic?

Makes ridiculous statements like the one above?

Has to have the last word?

Tick tock.

Opera built in VPN working
Not blindly in love with a football coach
No fan of dumb takes on women´s football
Not that interested in politics but sometimes have a word or two
Making a couple of posts every day because I like it
Makes entirely logical statements
Replying to people quoting me
Looks were on the same page

 

[dazzer6666]

Different sport. Yes.

When I watch a bit of Championship footy on TV, as I do, once I have recalibrated (it is a different sport from EPL) I can watch and enjoy. Without criticizing the higher frequency of misplaced passes than I am 'used to'.

Same deal for the other leagues all the way to Conference. I struggle to get my TV footy companion, Bob the retired social worker to engage with the adjustment, but he always gets into the game after 10 minutes or so. Even the cloud-scraping escapades in tiers 4 and 5.

And yes, standards improve. Women's football is a must-watch now (albeit EPL always takes preference if there is a clash, unless it is England women). Likewise we watched Oxford vs Stevenage (men) in tier 3 last night and the standard was amazing. Pit either of them against tier 3 when I started going to the Albion (late 60s) and the Albion would have lost by more than 10 goals.

Sorry, I have jumped into a conversation, and my only point really is that I agree - different leagues of football, whether EPL, EFL or WPL are effectively different sports, and all deliver great enjoyment, if you want it, and there is ongoing improvement everywhere.

Exactly……I obviously watch loads of PL football, and also have a season ticket at my local non-league lot. Trying to compare the two would be laughable, and comparing women’s football with (any) men’s football even more so. Our U16s would comfortably beat our WSL team, but so what ?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Exactly……I obviously watch loads of PL football, and also have a season ticket at my local non-league lot. Trying to compare the two would be laughable, and comparing women’s football with (any) men’s football even more so. Our U16s would comfortably beat our WSL team, but so what ?

Indeed.

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to decry the pointlessness of having a hand shandy.

 

[Me and my Monkey]

Opera built in VPN working
Not blindly in love with a football coach
No fan of dumb takes on women´s football
Not that interested in politics but sometimes have a word or two
Making a couple of posts every day because I like it
Makes entirely logical statements
Replying to people quoting me
Looks were on the same page

IP address in Sweden?

Hates De Zerbi?

Gets upset by people being negative over women’s football?

On the political threads?

Posting all day despite being a workaholic?

Makes ridiculous statements like the one above?

Has to have the last word?

Tick tock.

What you're hinting at would be lovely. I just hope Exilegull doesn't end up being hounded off NSC. There are some hugely objectionable posters on here (in my opinion OBVIOUSLY) who seem to be extremely meekly tolerated.

 

[The Clamp]

Oh C

Opera built in VPN working
Not blindly in love with a football coach
No fan of dumb takes on women´s football
Not that interested in politics but sometimes have a word or two
Making a couple of posts every day because I like it
Makes entirely logical statements
Replying to people quoting me
Looks were on the same page

Oh Christ.

You’re back, aren’t you.