beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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i know that a few of you like the odd flutter, i was wonder if anyone knows a strategy to always win over a course of a sitting on the roulette table. assuming it isnt fixed. 
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winning betting strategy?
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Gazwag
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betting on red and black 
(Typical I haven't got a clue but going to post anyway reply)
(Typical I haven't got a clue but going to post anyway reply)
sten_super
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beorhthelm said:i know that a few of you like the odd flutter, i was wonder if anyone knows a strategy to always win over a course of a sitting on the roulette table. assuming it isnt fixed.
Roulette betting is weighted in favour of the house; so the house will always (if you play for long enough) win. That's the problem with 0!
It depends what your aim is... when I play the aim is generally just to have a bit of fun and drag it out for as long as possible. I have a system of starting at betting £1 on either red or black. Then if you win, bonza, £1 up. If you lose, double your bet to £2. If you win now, you are back to winning £1. If you lose, double to £4. Repeat until you win your pound.
Like I said, doesn't exactly rake the cash in (and of course you will eventually get screwed by this method, when you lose several consecutive efforts, so it's best to give yourself a limit of say £16 on a single play), but it's a bit of fun and drags it out for a while!
Guarentee win
Bet an amount on red , if you lose double it , if you lose again double it and so on until it comes in.
When it comes in , you will be in profit.
Need initial stake though , so depends how much you want to win. Could start at say £20
Bet an amount on red , if you lose double it , if you lose again double it and so on until it comes in.
When it comes in , you will be in profit.
Need initial stake though , so depends how much you want to win. Could start at say £20
Monkster
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Lord Bracknell
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£20 isn't enough. You need to assess the likelihood of losing several bets in a row.Dougal said:
If you start with £20 and bet £1 initially, doubling up as you lose, you will find that four losing bets on the trot will have lost you £15.
That leaves you only £5 for your fifth bet. Even if it wins, you're still down.
Lord Bracknell
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And even if you can build up a little pile of "profit", you will find that it disappears spectacularly quickly, if AT ANY TIME, you get into a losing streak of six bets on the trot.
The trick is to budget for losing. Treat the spending in the way that you would treat spending on a good meal, or a night out. Don't ever get into to frame of mind that starts to plan how you will spend the winnings.
The trick is to budget for losing. Treat the spending in the way that you would treat spending on a good meal, or a night out. Don't ever get into to frame of mind that starts to plan how you will spend the winnings.
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1066gull
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Roulette or any luck games like it are mug games.
I only play poker, because you are playing agaisnt other people, not a computer. Blackjack is the only other game I don't play. but may do soon.
I only play poker, because you are playing agaisnt other people, not a computer. Blackjack is the only other game I don't play. but may do soon.
I do indeed know how to make a small fortune at roulette ...beorhthelm said:i know that a few of you like the odd flutter, i was wonder if anyone knows a strategy to always win over a course of a sitting on the roulette table. assuming it isnt fixed.
... start with a large one.
Lord Bracknell
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Re: Re: winning betting strategy?
You'll be guaranteed to be able to stay at the table for at least 20 turns of the wheel.
Playing for a long time is what impresses people. This technique also gives you a better than evens chance of eventually getting something that looks like a "big" win. Although, of course, you've also got a close to evens chance of never winning anything.
If that's the object of the game (and why not?), you'd be better advised to use your £20 to place single £1 bets on number 14 (or any number of your choice).sten_super said:
You'll be guaranteed to be able to stay at the table for at least 20 turns of the wheel.
Playing for a long time is what impresses people. This technique also gives you a better than evens chance of eventually getting something that looks like a "big" win. Although, of course, you've also got a close to evens chance of never winning anything.
I think that system's called 'Martingale' - and ultimately you lose. Even if you start with say £1 by the time you have five losing spins in a row (VERY common) you cumulative losses are £31. Six spins and it's £63.Seven spins and it's £127. You need very deep pockets and on a really bad run, say ten losing spins in succession not only are your acculated losses £1023 but you may find your required bet is outside the house limit. All to win £1!Dougal said:
nail-Z
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Dougal said:
This is why the casino's generally have a minimum £5 on an even chance, maximum of £1k.
Lose 8 on the bounce and you're a grand down, in pursuit of £5.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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thanks that explains it. i was think about the double up situation and couldnt see why it wouldnt be a dead cert. even for one pound. seems they've thought of that with table limit. damn, back to the day job then. 
beorhthelm said:thanks that explains it. i was think about the double up situation and couldnt see why it wouldnt be a dead cert. even for one pound. seems they've thought of that with table limit. damn, back to the day job then.
alternatively , select about 5 numbers and be loyal to them all the time (including 0) and quite suprising how often you can get lucky. Have to quit when it comes in though and set a limit to start with (£30 is good amount)
Mtoto
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The only way you will ever get an edge at roulette is via the wheel and/or the operator, not the maths. I used to know someone who worked in tandem with a colleague and reckoned that he could predict which half of the wheel the ball would land in just by judging the speed of the spin and the ball. He'd then place a bet on a single number which would tell his mate at the other end of the table which numbers to cover, and between them they would get singles on the relevant half just before the croupier called time.
Having once watched them in action, it was an impressive operation, and they turned 1,000 into nearly 10,000 in barely three hours. The obvious problem, though, is that the casinos aren't stupid. Their security people tend to spend a lot more time watching blackjack than they do roulette, because that's the one game where they know they can be beaten by a clever player, but if someone is winning consistently at roulette they will soon take an interest.
In this case, they couldn't be entirely sure what was happening, but in the end they just switched the croupier for one who launched the ball much faster, and called time on the betting a couple of seconds earlier. As soon as they did, they started losing, and that was that.
There have been rumours for years about people doing something similar using tiny cameras and sensors and computers to work out the likely finishing point of the ball. It is certainly possible in theory - you tap your foot to trigger a sensor every time the ball goes past a certain point, for example, and the same with a particular number, then the microchip does the rest. Even if you went to the huge expense in terms of money and time of building a machine that worked, though, getting away with it on a regular basis would be harder still.
Having once watched them in action, it was an impressive operation, and they turned 1,000 into nearly 10,000 in barely three hours. The obvious problem, though, is that the casinos aren't stupid. Their security people tend to spend a lot more time watching blackjack than they do roulette, because that's the one game where they know they can be beaten by a clever player, but if someone is winning consistently at roulette they will soon take an interest.
In this case, they couldn't be entirely sure what was happening, but in the end they just switched the croupier for one who launched the ball much faster, and called time on the betting a couple of seconds earlier. As soon as they did, they started losing, and that was that.
There have been rumours for years about people doing something similar using tiny cameras and sensors and computers to work out the likely finishing point of the ball. It is certainly possible in theory - you tap your foot to trigger a sensor every time the ball goes past a certain point, for example, and the same with a particular number, then the microchip does the rest. Even if you went to the huge expense in terms of money and time of building a machine that worked, though, getting away with it on a regular basis would be harder still.
beorhthelm
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5 numbers? hows that work.
btw i played a bit on a roulette simulator (dont know how good they are), and found doubling up on the 2-1 odds works pretty well.
btw i played a bit on a roulette simulator (dont know how good they are), and found doubling up on the 2-1 odds works pretty well.
beorhthelm
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mtoto said:
i thnk i watch a program that had something like that.
i expect any sure fire or just good technique will get you thrown out of a real casino. Are tinternet casinos any better in this regard?
beorhthelm said:
Nothing complicated , just have a few numbers you stick loyal to.
Personally I have 0 , 3 , 17 , 18, 23 , + 36
I always cover these for every bet , obviously if im feeling richer I can cover others and whack more on these numbers , but suprising how often they will come in.
After all , they all come in eventually and you can get lucky as soon as you sit at a table