[Albion] Winning a trophy

[Triggaaar]

It's a national competition, but not a major one.

It was a major one at the time.

 

[Mellotron]

It's a national competition, but not a major one.

It definitely appeared to be major at the time. Brighton 1910 - Champions of England.

Otherwise that's like saying Nottm Forest and Villa's European Cup wins aren't major, because that format is dead now.

 

[Triggaaar]

Otherwise that's like saying Nottm Forest and Villa's European Cup wins aren't major, because that format is dead now.

Oo good analogy.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

It definitely appeared to be major at the time. Brighton 1910 - Champions of England.

Otherwise that's like saying Nottm Forest and Villa's European Cup wins aren't major, because that format is dead now.

Indeed.

They've included Newcastle's FAIRS CUP win, FFS. There is absolutely no chance that was a bigger deal at the time, than the 1910 CS.

 

[Wozza]

It definitely appeared to be major at the time. Brighton 1910 - Champions of England.

Otherwise that's like saying Nottm Forest and Villa's European Cup wins aren't major, because that format is dead now.

Except the former was a one-off charity match which few would have cared about. (Looks up attendance: 13,000)

The other was Europe's biggest football tournament , featuring the best teams team in the continent, broadcast around the world, and in living memory (for some of us).

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Would you swap an FA Cup win for Premier League survival this season?

Yup. Bring it on!

 

[Mellotron]

Except the former was a one-off charity match which few would have cared about. (Looks up attendance: 13,000)

The other was Europe's biggest football tournament , featuring the best teams team in the continent, broadcast around the world, and in living memory (for some of us).

I'm not comparing the two tournaments as like for like. I'm saying the argument that the format has changed shouldn't diminish how important the accolade was at the time. Winning that game made us the Champions of England. That's a worthwhile achievement.

 

[Invicta]

We should def try and win a major honour in next 80 odd years. Cant live off the Charity Shield glory into a 3rd century !

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Thought we won The Jewish Chronicle Trophy in the 70's?

 

[Wozza]

I'm not comparing the two tournaments as like for like. I'm saying the argument that the format has changed shouldn't diminish how important the accolade was at the time. Winning that game made us the Champions of England. That's a worthwhile achievement.

Has anyone argued that a format change has diminished the importance of the Charity Shield?

 

[Mellotron]

Has anyone argued that a format change has diminished the importance of the Charity Shield?

Well, it has. If there was still such a thing as a southern and a national league (and therefore no Prem, obviously), and at the end the two Champions of the two respective big national leagues played each other to see who champions of England are, that would be seen as a huge deal. The biggest game of the year, surely?

I mean, that's literally the same set up as the Superbowl in the US.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Would you swap an FA Cup win for Premier League survival this season?

No. No chance. Imagine how amazing it would be to win the FA Cup.

That would be for life. Newsflash, we WILL get relegated from the premier league. Probably within the next five years. We'll get promoted again. But an FA Cup win? Forever.

 

[Wozza]

Well, it has. If there was still such a thing as a southern and a national league (and therefore no Prem, obviously), and at the end the two Champions of the two respective big national leagues played each other to see who champions of England are, that would be seen as a huge deal. The biggest game of the year, surely?

I mean, that's literally the same set up as the Superbowl in the US.

Oh, come on. The Superbowl is the ultimate prize every team and player is competing for all season, watched by most of the country. It's the end goal.

In 1910, football teams were competing to win their respective leagues. The shield was a bolt-on, one-off match for charity which drew a piss-poor attendance.

 

[Mellotron]

Oh, come on. The Superbowl is the ultimate prize every team and player is competing for all season, watched by most of the country. It's the end goal.

In 1910, football teams were competing to win their respective leagues. The shield was a bolt-on, one-off match for charity which drew a piss-poor attendance.

EDIT - Duplicate post.

 

[Mellotron]

Oh, come on. The Superbowl is the ultimate prize every team and player is competing for all season, watched by most of the country. It's the end goal.

In 1910, football teams were competing to win their respective leagues. The shield was a bolt-on, one-off match for charity which drew a piss-poor attendance.

I don't think you read what I've said. If we NOW had two big national leagues, and there was only one game to decide who was the Champion of England each year, that would be a massive game, wouldn't it?

You said has changing the format diminished it, I'm saying clearly it has, given how huge a game like that would be nowadays - it would be the end goal of the season, as you confirm the Superbowl is.

*Waits for you to change the goalposts again, or (deliberately?) misconstrue my points again.*

 

[Wozza]

You said has changing the format diminished it

Nope.

 

[Rogero]

We are not safe. Lose tonight and Saturday and the season will change.

 

[Mellotron]

Nope.

Apologies, I missed out a couple of words.

"Has anyone argued that a format change has diminished the importance of the Charity Shield?" - is what you said. I responded by saying that it has, and gave pretty good examples.

 

[Wozza]

Ok. Can't really have a discussion with someone who goes back and edits their posts. Have a good day.