severnside gull
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Will Pompey fold? (merged threads)
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I am suitably admonished - hoist with my own petard indeed (that's definitely Shakespeare!!)
Maybe. What's Plymouth's own situation? Are they still a team of kids, or have they stabilised now?
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Pompey prepare to pull plug on Andersen
By Neil Allen
Published on Tuesday 14 August 2012 10:00
Mikkel Andersen is expected to be the first target to be culled as Michael Appleton attempts to cope with his 62.50-per-cent budget cut.
The highly-regarded Reading keeper had agreed to join Pompey on a season-long loan once a takeover had been completed.
That move is now set to be scrapped, with the Blues no longer able to afford his wages.
Portpin’s decision to slash a previously-agreed proposed playing budget of £4m to £1.5m in the past week has accounted for that.
In addition, Appleton anticipates losing 50 per cent of the recruits he has been lining up since the start of May.
That includes Billy Paynter, who yesterday signed for Doncaster rather than arriving at Fratton Park.
Last week Peter Ramage (Crystal Palace) and Tommy Elphick (Bournemouth) slipped out of the Blues’ grasp as their patience finally wore out.
Portpin’s U-turn has devastated a summer’s planning for Appleton. It has also destroyed much remaining faith among Pompey fans towards their intentions.
Appleton is still waiting to learn of their reasons for doing so, with both Balram Chainrai and Levi Kushnir so far refusing to take or return his calls.
In the meantime, he has been left with a £1.5m budget – believed to be among the five lowest in League One.
That figure matches the budget League Two side Northampton Town operated on last year.
Pre-season opposition AFC Wimbledon’s budget is £1m, while Wycombe Wanderers, relegated from League One last term, have a budget of £1.25m.
In contrast, the Pompey Supporters’ Trust have factored in £2.65m for a playing budget in their business plan.
And while Pompey await Portpin to finalise their long-running takeover, Appleton is left with starting his rebuilding all over again – days before the start of the league campaign.
He said: ‘The arrival of Andersen is something we have to decide over the next two or three days because you have got to weigh up every scenario.
‘The honest answer is it will obviously be very, very difficult and we would have to compensate in different areas to get him through the building.
‘If it becomes a situation where we will have to miss out on two or three players to get him, that would make life very, very difficult and I think you have got to make a sensible decision from there.
‘You might have six or seven who you thought were real key players. It might be now we can only sign two or three of them.
‘You will have to build a younger squad around them and hopefully that will be competitive to keep them in that division.
‘I think I’ve already lost out on at least 12-15 players in terms of the timescale, regardless of the budget. We will probably now lose out on another 50 per cent.
‘At the minute, I still think we are in a position where we can do something with those players on trial. There might have to be a bit of give and take in those areas but I still think we can do something.
‘It’s a bit of a mess. It didn’t have to be this way and I am a little bit surprised and shocked that it has gone this far.
‘I expected it to be dealt with before this – but for whatever reason the owners are not playing ball.’
Sport
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Pompey Past
Pompey prepare to pull plug on Andersen
By Neil Allen
Published on Tuesday 14 August 2012 10:00
Mikkel Andersen is expected to be the first target to be culled as Michael Appleton attempts to cope with his 62.50-per-cent budget cut.
The highly-regarded Reading keeper had agreed to join Pompey on a season-long loan once a takeover had been completed.
That move is now set to be scrapped, with the Blues no longer able to afford his wages.
Portpin’s decision to slash a previously-agreed proposed playing budget of £4m to £1.5m in the past week has accounted for that.
In addition, Appleton anticipates losing 50 per cent of the recruits he has been lining up since the start of May.
That includes Billy Paynter, who yesterday signed for Doncaster rather than arriving at Fratton Park.
Last week Peter Ramage (Crystal Palace) and Tommy Elphick (Bournemouth) slipped out of the Blues’ grasp as their patience finally wore out.
Portpin’s U-turn has devastated a summer’s planning for Appleton. It has also destroyed much remaining faith among Pompey fans towards their intentions.
Appleton is still waiting to learn of their reasons for doing so, with both Balram Chainrai and Levi Kushnir so far refusing to take or return his calls.
In the meantime, he has been left with a £1.5m budget – believed to be among the five lowest in League One.
That figure matches the budget League Two side Northampton Town operated on last year.
Pre-season opposition AFC Wimbledon’s budget is £1m, while Wycombe Wanderers, relegated from League One last term, have a budget of £1.25m.
In contrast, the Pompey Supporters’ Trust have factored in £2.65m for a playing budget in their business plan.
And while Pompey await Portpin to finalise their long-running takeover, Appleton is left with starting his rebuilding all over again – days before the start of the league campaign.
He said: ‘The arrival of Andersen is something we have to decide over the next two or three days because you have got to weigh up every scenario.
‘The honest answer is it will obviously be very, very difficult and we would have to compensate in different areas to get him through the building.
‘If it becomes a situation where we will have to miss out on two or three players to get him, that would make life very, very difficult and I think you have got to make a sensible decision from there.
‘You might have six or seven who you thought were real key players. It might be now we can only sign two or three of them.
‘You will have to build a younger squad around them and hopefully that will be competitive to keep them in that division.
‘I think I’ve already lost out on at least 12-15 players in terms of the timescale, regardless of the budget. We will probably now lose out on another 50 per cent.
‘At the minute, I still think we are in a position where we can do something with those players on trial. There might have to be a bit of give and take in those areas but I still think we can do something.
‘It’s a bit of a mess. It didn’t have to be this way and I am a little bit surprised and shocked that it has gone this far.
‘I expected it to be dealt with before this – but for whatever reason the owners are not playing ball.’
- Jul 7, 2003
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Stabilised to a degree (& unlike Pompey, out of administration). But they did finish at the arse end of League Two last season so they can't be all that.
Looking forward to seeing Pompey's team tonight
Though it would be bloody typical of them to field a bunch of 18 year olds and win.
Looking forward to seeing Pompey's team tonight
Though it would be bloody typical of them to field a bunch of 18 year olds and win.
Not Andy Naylor
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Exactly. As everyone knows, I yield to no-one in my contempt for P*rtsm**th, but I think Appleton was talking about free agents he'd promised contracts to - offers that he will now have to withdraw.
Love it.
- Jul 7, 2003
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Never mind that: they were seriously after Billy Paynter
And lost out in the bidding FRENZY to Doncaster Rovers
Pinkie Brown
Wir Sind das Volk
Appleton appears to be looking for a way out now by engineering the sack for himself. If he gets the boot, I can see Chainrai installing some unknown incompetent as part of the Stealth rundown plan for PFC.
Hove Seagull
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I'm not sure Harry would want the job, though!
HawkTheSeagull
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ONLY £1.5 Million ?!?!?!?!?!? 
Some clubs in that league dont even have that much to spend and its disgusting that they are moaning about having that amount when they shouldnt even be spending anything !!!
Some clubs in that league dont even have that much to spend and its disgusting that they are moaning about having that amount when they shouldnt even be spending anything !!!
Not Andy Naylor
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Michael Appleton’s Pompey press conference pre Plymouth Argyle - Pompey Past - Portsmouth News
This is shot in the treatment room that doubles as a press room at Portsmouth's crappy excuse for a training ground in Eastleigh. Appleton normally sits behind a desk and tries to appear businesslike but obviously couldn't be arsed yesterday and went for the sofa instead
This is shot in the treatment room that doubles as a press room at Portsmouth's crappy excuse for a training ground in Eastleigh. Appleton normally sits behind a desk and tries to appear businesslike but obviously couldn't be arsed yesterday and went for the sofa instead
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SurreySeagulls
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Job seems just right for Steve Keane when he gets the sack in September!!!! He also has the hide of an elephant and by God you will need it at Pompeyscum
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Pompey=Basket case.
severnside gull
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The news gets better and better
Young Blues deserve apology as Appy fumes - Pompey Past - Portsmouth News
Just how many extra points will they be docked if the CVA doesn't go through this week?
Young Blues deserve apology as Appy fumes - Pompey Past - Portsmouth News
Just how many extra points will they be docked if the CVA doesn't go through this week?
Mileoakman
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Strangely actually there isn't. You don't get points deducted for being in administration at the start of the season. In fact even the 10 points they have been deducted so far don't actually take effect until the new owners, (if there are ever any), take over. Therefore in theory Portsmouth could win on Saturday and be on 3 points and then get taken over on Sunday and immediately be on -7.
I know its loopy but thats the rule apparently. Seems that when new owners take over they get hit with the points deduction then, which does seem strange. Mind you as the Football League seem to have almost unlimited powers on how they deduct points they will probably hit Pompey again for some strange rule infringement.
Pompey won’t face further league points loss - Pompey Past - Portsmouth News
Quite impressed with some of the comments at the bottom of that;
Especially this one
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
Didn't Bournemouth and Rotherham both fail to come out of administration before the season began and ended up with a 17 points deduction ? It was the same season as Luton started on -30 of which 10 of those points were for not exiting administration in time.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Betfred wouldn't let me have a bet earlier, but can get on at Ladbrokes. PA seemed to have signed a few decentish players so looks like the financial side stabilised ?
Its very interesting, Michael Appleton has not really done himself any favours PR wise over the last few days has he? Sounds like their own supporters are realising it too.
Luton weren’t in administration. Their point’s deduction was for financial irregularities