Will England fans really sing the French national anthem tomorrow?

[Dick Swiveller]

The real shame is that life didn't mean life in the bans for Berkshire Seagull, Another Berkshire Seagull et al.

 

[lawros left foot]

Nothing wrong, just find it a bit dour. Our National Anthem is asking someone ( that alot of the population don't believe in ) to save our monarch ( that a minority of our population don't believe in ). If you think of all the history that this country has then I feel we should have lyrics to an anthem to match.

If you are trying to out someone as less of a patriot than yourself, then I am afraid you are barking up the wrong tree. I have been to many Euro and World Cup games both here and abroad. Trust me there are some cracking anthems out there, when it comes to passion, gutso and tradition I'm afraid GSTQ is not up there in my opinion.

Is patriotism really measured by how many times someone has seen the national football team play in away games?
If it is, call me a traitor to our country, I haven't been to any. Still, all the hoolies who dragged our name through the mud all over Europe in the 70s and 80s could teach me a thing or two about patriotism.

 

[mothy]

I would show my respect by not booing their anthem - that is all

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Still, all the hoolies who dragged our name through the mud all over Europe in the 70s and 80s could teach me a thing or two about patriotism.

Ha ha. Good point.

 

[cunning fergus]

Is literally the only thing you've said that's - just - worth dignifying with a response.

I couldn't help myself........you did say "distingished wartime allies" after all...........

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/17/world/chirac-affirms-france-s-guilt-in-fate-of-jews.html

Balance and context that's all.

 

[cunning fergus]

Really ? I think you need to look up the meaning of dirge.

It is dirge compared to other clubs' anthems.

Not that I care about that, because its BHA's anthem. Its a key part of what identifies BHA from other clubs and the fans experience of supporting BHA. Watching BHA is unimaginable without GOSBTS, personally I think they should still play it at the end like they used to do.

GOSBTS is part of our tradition and culture...............many traditions do not make a lot of sense in today's world but that's the nature of tradition for you.

National anthems and GOSBTS are like that because they tend to be historic.

GSTQ may seem archaic but like GOSBTS its our anthem.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The way things are going in this country it seems most would do what they're told to do by the media.If that's what floats your boat then fair enough though.
Britain and France as a friendship seems unlikely but not impossible.

I'm really struggling to see the point you're trying to make ? I suspect you haven't spent much time in France given your ****wit comments. I spend around two months a year there and have never had an issue. As a nation they are not to be messed with and I wish our government took a page out of their book.

Over a hundred innocent people have been slaughtered ..... in cold blood ..... and yet you start a ****wit thread like this ? Really ? What kind of **** are you ?

 

[Hillian1]

Fair play to anyone who attempts it.

But I can't help but that think it's going to sound like a cross between Allo Allo and the Swedish Chef.

Thought that counts though.

 

[Nibble]

They shouldn't sing it. All very embarrassing these days, all this clamouring to be seen as grieving.

 

[sydney]

heaven ****ing forbid that europe may unite and drown the filth in song....heaven forbid...!! bell ends most of you lot..!!

 

[sydney]

They shouldn't sing it. All very embarrassing these days, all this clamouring to be seen as grieving.

grieving or ****ing angry....?? i know which i am......funny how we have posted opposing points of view completely independent of eachother , qelle surprise.... have you really become so disillusioned with your race that you don't care any more...... sad if you have...!!

 

[Nibble]

grieving or ****ing angry....?? i know which i am......funny how we have posted opposing points of view completely independent of eachother , qelle surprise.... have you really become so disillusioned with your race that you don't care any more...... sad if you have...!!

Get a grip. I'm all for humanity in such times. I'm not for this trend over the past few years, spurred on by social media, of these ridiculous outpourings of grief. We all observed a 1 minute silence yesterday, and quite rightly. Our solidarity and respect for the dead should be taken as granted. Utterly embarrassing how people clamour and scrape for innovative ways to show solidarity. Pathetic in my opinion.
But, do what makes you feel better. First in line to say go ahead, first in line to say it's ridiculous.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I'd rather sing La Marseillaise than god save the queen to be fair.

you better go and live in France then............THAT'S A SHOCKING STATEMENT
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

They shouldn't sing it. All very embarrassing these days, all this clamouring to be seen as grieving.

singing a song isn't going to bring them back sadly,i tend to agree with you on this one
regards
DR

 

[Nibble]

singing a song isn't going to bring them back sadly,i tend to agree with you on this one
regards
DR

A first. A minutes applause for us agreeing please.

 

[sydney]

Get a grip. I'm all for humanity in such times. I'm not for this trend over the past few years, spurred on by social media, of these ridiculous outpourings of grief. We all observed a 1 minute silence yesterday, and quite rightly. Our solidarity and respect for the dead should be taken as granted. Utterly embarrassing how people clamour and scrape for innovative ways to show solidarity. Pathetic in my opinion.
But, do what makes you feel better. First in line to say go ahead, first in line to say it's ridiculous.

i think , under the circumstances , that a ball busting rendition of both national anthems may be seen or taken as a statement , as it is i can see a crowd of 40,000 and a complete fizzer of an occasion......i really hope i'm wrong....!! no clamouring here either , just a bit of anger and utter disbelief.

 

[Gilliver's Travels]

Bloomin 'eck. I've just been reading the English translation, off this Marseillaise website.
Forget stuff about sending our old gal victorious, happy and glorious, etc. This is the real deal!

Sometimes, just derr-derr-de-derring doesn't quite hit the spot...

La Marseillaise - English lyrics

Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

To arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny

Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
That they regret taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Ripped out their mothers' wombs

We too shall enlist
When our elders' time has come
To add to the list of deeds
Inscribed upon their tombs
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them

Drive on sacred patriotism
Support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that in death your enemies
See your triumph and our glory!

 

[Guinness Boy]

They shouldn't sing it. All very embarrassing these days, all this clamouring to be seen as grieving.

It isn't clamouring to be seen as grieving, it's shock, upset and solidarity. How many people on this board do you think have spent time in Paris or gone to a sweaty metal gig or an international football match? How many in tonight's crowd will have spent time in Paris? My dad lives in France about and hour and a half away from Paris. Is he not allowed to be upset? Where should he leave it? Angry? A bit worried? Oh look Doris, there's something happening in Paris on the telly? M'eh?

What about Shoreham? None of the people I knew well who were there actually died, just the friend of a friend. Should I not have bothered with the walk or flowers?

 

[Nibble]

It isn't clamouring to be seen as grieving, it's shock, upset and solidarity. How many people on this board do you think have spent time in Paris or gone to a sweaty metal gig or an international football match? How many in tonight's crowd will have spent time in Paris? My dad lives in France about and hour and a half away from Paris. Is he not allowed to be upset? Where should he leave it? Angry? A bit worried? Oh look Doris, there's something happening in Paris on the telly? M'eh?

What about Shoreham? None of the people I knew well who were there actually died, just the friend of a friend. Should I not have bothered with the walk or flowers?

You have missed my point. Of course we should be angry, upset, sympathetic, empathetic. Of course, it's the feeling that comes naturally to me, you, everyone with a scrap of humanity. I prefer not to display outpourings of grief and emotion. I think it's ridiculous. Grieve or show solidarity in any way you see fit.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Each to their own i guess. Out of all the European countries i find the French the most unfriendliest.

Have you tried talking to them in .... well .... French ? I guess not.