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Internet man in Sweden says that Optas weird ELO-system to measure "team power rankings" (which your list is based on) is absolutely shite.

This US-Mexican cup - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Leagues_Cup - where MLS teams played against various Mexican teams at home but never in Mexico - is the main reason the MLS climbed from 29th to 10th in a single year. In the CONCACAF CL, the MLS teams usually don't stand much of a chance against the teams they beat in the "Leagues Cup".

MLS being a top 10 league is complete nonsense. You can watch a game in the Turkish Super League and then in the MLS and 9 out of 10 times you will notice with your bare eyes that the former is much better.

MLS is maybe the 25th best league or so. I think even the biggest MLS fans will laugh at the idea of their league being top 10.

Internet man thinks you should strongly reconsider blind faith if anything a big organisation (like Opta) does just because it is a big organisation. The way they calculate this just isn't good enough to even be worth thinking of.

Disappointed to see no singe of the monkey-tennis league in that list.
(According to Chris Sutton, Celtic and Rangers are Bigger than Leicester).

(One for UK-based R5 listeners, and 'followers' of scotlandish footballs there, Hans; it won't mean anything to yous.)

 

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Internet man in Sweden says that Optas weird ELO-system to measure "team power rankings" (which your list is based on) is absolutely shite.

This US-Mexican cup - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Leagues_Cup - where MLS teams played against various Mexican teams at home but never in Mexico - is the main reason the MLS climbed from 29th to 10th in a single year. In the CONCACAF CL, the MLS teams usually don't stand much of a chance against the teams they beat in the "Leagues Cup".

MLS being a top 10 league is complete nonsense. You can watch a game in the Turkish Super League and then in the MLS and 9 out of 10 times you will notice with your bare eyes that the former is much better.

MLS is maybe the 25th best league or so. I think even the biggest MLS fans will laugh at the idea of their league being top 10.

Internet man thinks you should strongly reconsider blind faith if anything a big organisation (like Opta) does just because it is a big organisation. The way they calculate this just isn't good enough to even be worth thinking of.

Nope, you're still talking out of your arse.

Turkish football is dominated by about 3 clubs. You're unlikely to see Turkish football is much better if you watch Bodrum v Alanyaspor I can tell you. And let's face it, YOU'VE decided that leagues cup is the main reason for the jump, not actual facts. In the Concacaf champions league equivalent, it is usually one of the 4 or 5 big Mexican clubs that win it, but American and Canadian teams have got to the final and indeed won it in recent times. Last time, Mexican club Pachuca beat Columbus Crew in the final. So MLS was competitive enough to make it to a final then.

What you fail to acknowledge is that we are talking about the strength of LEAGUES, not the biggest clubs in those leagues, and MLS benefits from a level of parity you don't see much elsewhere. And your dumb idea that half of each team is made up of league one standard players belongs in the year 2003. We've just jizzed a fair bit on Gomez, who came from a team featuring Messi, Suarez and Busquets, so probably not much room for league one players there - a team that didn't make the final 8 in the MLS post season.

 

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Disappointed to see no singe of the monkey-tennis league in that list.
(According to Chris Sutton, Celtic and Rangers are Bigger than Leicester).

(One for UK-based R5 listeners, and 'followers' of scotlandish footballs there, Hans; it won't mean anything to yous.)

Is this a totally pointless argument, or can anyone join in (just for shits and giggles, like)?

 

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Is this a totally pointless argument, or can anyone join in (just for shits and giggles, like)?

I'm not sure.
What do you recon?

You could loudly announce that you're putting the thread on ignore?

Or you could simply put whoever has annoyed you on ignore.
The latter works nicely for me

 

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Nope, you're still talking out of your arse.

Turkish football is dominated by about 3 clubs. You're unlikely to see Turkish football is much better if you watch Bodrum v Alanyaspor I can tell you. And let's face it, YOU'VE decided that leagues cup is the main reason for the jump, not actual facts. In the Concacaf champions league equivalent, it is usually one of the 4 or 5 big Mexican clubs that win it, but American and Canadian teams have got to the final and indeed won it in recent times. Last time, Mexican club Pachuca beat Columbus Crew in the final. So MLS was competitive enough to make it to a final then.

What you fail to acknowledge is that we are talking about the strength of LEAGUES, not the biggest clubs in those leagues, and MLS benefits from a level of parity you don't see much elsewhere. And your dumb idea that half of each team is made up of league one standard players belongs in the year 2003. We've just jizzed a fair bit on Gomez, who came from a team featuring Messi, Suarez and Busquets, so probably not much room for league one players there - a team that didn't make the final 8 in the MLS post season.

This is all getting far too nuanced for me.
Bodrum, you say?
Well, I never.