[Football] Wigan go into adminsitration

[andy1980]

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/july/efl-statement-wigan-athletic/

 

[Giraffe]

Teams shouldn't be facing points deductions for entering administration at the moment. That's just sick.

I understand the sentiment but I'm not so sure - you need to protect the integrity of the competition and you can't change the rules mid season. Would inevitably end in a legal case from whoever went down instead.

 

[bluenitsuj]

And liverpool etc will be spending 100 million+ on new players soon.

 

[Insel affe]

I think the Whelan deal by his son Darren has something to do with this, not well liked by Wigan fans. They just signed Balogun from us, I hope we got paid up front...!
Although I did not like my time much in Wigan from 83-88 I did sometimes go to Springfield Park and watch the latics, in my Brighton shirt aswell !!
Feel for the fans, something does not smell right here...

 

[Randy McNob]

How much is Whelan to blame ? He was lauded as a hero, took them to the prem and Wembley but once he had his fun sold them and without him pumping cash in their fate was somewhat inevitable. He's not been underhanded but Wigans status is his vision, the stadium still bears his initials and their current plight is his legacy even if he isn't the owner anymore

 

[schmunk]

Wigan have gone into administration. First club to be impacted by the shutdown of football, but sadly I doubt they will be the only ones effected.

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That headline's a bit harsh: "Wigan breaking".

 

[rippleman]

Very sad news but I fear that they won't be the only one. Really feel for their fans as this situation is outside of their control.

I don't necessarily agree with giraffe's comments that "you can't change the rules mid season". Plenty of rules have been changed for this season as a result of coronavirus.

Still, for any Wigan fans reading this I would tell them not to despair. Palace have made a habit of going into admin to avoid paying their debts but if you look at the PL table it certainly hasn't done them any harm.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I think the Whelan deal by his son Darren has something to do with this, not well liked by Wigan fans. They just signed Balogun from us, I hope we got paid up front...!
Although I did not like my time much in Wigan from 83-88 I did sometimes go to Springfield Park and watch the latics, in my Brighton shirt aswell !!
Feel for the fans, something does not smell right here...

Balogun was out of contract with us, contrary to what I put earlier it would appear he hasn't actually signed a permanent deal with Wigan but just a temporary deal until the end of the current season. His loan deal with Wigan, and contract with us would have finished yesterday, so the new deal with Wigan allows him to play in the remaining games.

It certainly seems something fishy is going on with this administration coming a few weeks after IEC sold the club. How can you pass the fit and proper persons test, proving you had the money to run the club for the rest of this season and all of next then a few weeks later file for administration. Not sure how much blame can be put with the Whelan family who effectively haven't been running the club for 2 years now.

 

[studio150]

Not good news, especially for the Wigan fans,

In terms of rule changes to not hand out the 12 point deduction, I think this will very much depend on how many clubs go the same way as Wigan before the end of the season. If it's just Wigan I can't see any change coming, but if this is the start of a few clubs going the same way, then there will probably more of a climate to change the rules given the current situation.

Hopefully Wigan can come out of this playing football next season with the Football League rather than out of business as Bury

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Not good news, especially for the Wigan fans,

In terms of rule changes to not hand out the 12 point deduction, I think this will very much depend on how many clubs go the same way as Wigan before the end of the season. If it's just Wigan I can't see any change coming, but if this is the start of a few clubs going the same way, then there will probably more of a climate to change the rules given the current situation.

Hopefully Wigan can come out of this playing football next season with the Football League rather than out of business as Bury

According this bloke on twitter there could be a force majeure clause (but what does he know eh.... )

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I'm no financial expert, but I imagine that could be open to abuse, ie a club forces itself into administration in order to reduce their debts, and then come out the other side in better shape.

Hasn't that been done before?

 

[RM-Taylor]

Wigan currently 8 points clear of the bottom 3 and have a run of winnable games coming up against the current relegation battlers (Barnsley, Hull and Charlton) plus a QPR side languishing in mid table. Hopefully they can pick up the points to keep them up this season.

 

[Randy McNob]

Wigan currently 8 points clear of the bottom 3 and have a run of winnable games coming up against the current relegation battlers (Barnsley, Hull and Charlton) plus a QPR side languishing in mid table. Hopefully they can pick up the points to keep them up this season.

correct me if i'm wrong but if they stay up they get the deduction next season?

 

[RM-Taylor]

correct me if i'm wrong but if they stay up they get the deduction next season?

12 point deduction applies at the end of this season, unless they finish in the bottom 3 and get relegated anyway, if that happens then they start next season on -12

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

You’d like to think that common sense will prevail and any clubs that go into administration due to covid will remain in the division that they were in

The likes of Barnsley, Luton, Huddersfield and Stoke wouldn't agree!

 

[LlcoolJ]

Reading that link to their forum, they've been completely shafted by the EFL.

From what they are saying, the new owners took over 4 weeks ago having passed the EFL tests, including providing evidence of funding for the proscribed period (2 years or whatever it is). 4 weeks later they've put the club into admin citing the loss of income from Covid 19.

So where's the money that they "proved" they had to the EFL? Their excuse makes absolutely zero sense. What a shambles.

Maybe the EFL employed the same auditors from EY who didn't bother checking that $1.9bn in Wirecard's accounts actually existed (one for the geeks there).

 

[nicko31]

I fear this will be the first of many...

 

[portslade seagull]

https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/whats-going-on.105986/

By the looks of it, none of the fans had a scooby this was coming

Can't believe the players did either

 

[portslade seagull]

Reading that link to their forum, they've been completely shafted by the EFL.

From what they are saying, the new owners took over 4 weeks ago having passed the EFL tests, including providing evidence of funding for the proscribed period (2 years or whatever it is). 4 weeks later they've put the club into admin citing the loss of income from Covid 19.

So where's the money that they "proved" they had to the EFL? Their excuse makes absolutely zero sense. What a shambles.

Maybe the EFL employed the same auditors from EY who didn't bother checking that $1.9bn in Wirecard's accounts actually existed (one for the geeks there).

Maybe the EFL need a fit and proper test themselves

 

[beorhthelm]

Hasn't that been done before?

allegedly, thats why we have the rules we have.