Why shouldn't I vote for the Tories?

[Westdene Seagull]

Parents live in oz, I'm sure I could get sponsered no problem

So you've picked SEAFORD over Australia ? Really

 

[Diablo]

One very good reason to vote Tory...


David Cameron has announced that he intends to make it more difficult to claim benefits. From next week all the forms will be printed in English.

 

[BHAWise]

So you've picked SEAFORD over Australia ? Really

The wife is to keen just yet...

 

[fat old seagull]

If the red Ed's get in to power my house will be put on the market and I'll be on the first plane out of here.

Will passengers for flight AFL2575 to MOSCOW please make their way to Gate 13... thank you..

 

[Camicus]

Are you a sociopath? no then you shouldn't vote tory. Every tory government is the same slash and burn of public services and lining the pockets of the rich. If you are stupid or rich vote tory. If you care about schools hospitals the fire service police ambulance prison service don't vote tory

 

[Coldeanseagull]

Are you a sociopath? no then you shouldn't vote tory. Every tory government is the same slash and burn of public services and lining the pockets of the rich. If you are stupid or rich vote tory. If you care about schools hospitals the fire service police ambulance prison service don't vote tory

Just seen your signature and had to laugh, I'm always saying 'methinks'......but after all, I am stupid

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Are you a sociopath? no then you shouldn't vote tory. Every tory government is the same slash and burn of public services and lining the pockets of the rich. If you are stupid or rich vote tory. If you care about schools hospitals the fire service police ambulance prison service don't vote tory

I'm voting neither Tory nor Labour but you appear somewhat blinkered :

Schools - Labour hocked many of them into debt using PFI, the Tories have handed them over to private enterprise with academies and free schools
Police - Labour created the cheap, not proper police officers known as PCSOs, the Tories created the Police Commissioners ( otherwise known as politicising the police )
Hospitals - back to that old PFI thing from Labour ( and we can add in the disaster within NHS dentistry under Labour ), Tories organised the NHS, badly, and against their promises
Prison Service - prisons were 'sold off' under Labour, under the Tories the service was handed over to Capita
Ambulance - utterly impossible targets set by Labour, not sure the Tories have done anything with it so far
Fire Service - one of the longest and most hostile industrial actions with the fire service under Labour ( actually requiring the Army to step in ), ridiculous pension plans under the Tories

Using your theory, you should vote neither Tory nor Labour - but weirdly you're too blinkered to name Labour as a guilty party as well ?

 

[Camicus]

I have worked in the public sector for 30 years. EVERY tory government has been disaster New labour are about as socialist as a fox hunting banker in a ku klux clan outfit. Personally I don't consider them to be proper labour. Also the OP was asking why he shouldn't vote tory.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I have worked in the public sector for 30 years. EVERY tory government has been disaster New labour are about as socialist as a fox hunting banker in a ku klux clan outfit. Personally I don't consider them to be proper labour. Also the OP was asking why he shouldn't vote tory.

All two of them ? Having worked longside the public sector for 25 years I'd suggest it needs a complete shake up regardless of a blue or red government - utterly wasteful, dis-organised and politically biased.

 

[Camicus]

All two of them ? Having worked longside the public sector for 25 years I'd suggest it needs a complete shake up regardless of a blue or red government - utterly wasteful, dis-organised and politically biased.

I think your talking bollocks as per usual. I have yet to see political bias we cannot waste funds we are not given did you know we have £1.68 per day to feed a inmate? Torys talk tough and advocate sterner sentencing then berate us for overcrowding. If we were as disorganised as you suggest we wouldn't have such a good record of saving lives keeping people in or fighting your wars.

 

[GT49er]

I'm voting neither Tory nor Labour but you appear somewhat blinkered :

Schools - Labour hocked many of them into debt using PFI, the Tories have handed them over to private enterprise with academies and free schools
Police - Labour created the cheap, not proper police officers known as PCSOs, the Tories created the Police Commissioners ( otherwise known as politicising the police )
Hospitals - back to that old PFI thing from Labour ( and we can add in the disaster within NHS dentistry under Labour ), Tories organised the NHS, badly, and against their promises
Prison Service - prisons were 'sold off' under Labour, under the Tories the service was handed over to Capita
Ambulance - utterly impossible targets set by Labour, not sure the Tories have done anything with it so far
Fire Service - one of the longest and most hostile industrial actions with the fire service under Labour ( actually requiring the Army to step in ), ridiculous pension plans under the Tories

Using your theory, you should vote neither Tory nor Labour - but weirdly you're too blinkered to name Labour as a guilty party as well ?

OK. UKIP it is then!

 

[Buzzer]

It is extremely difficult, possibly impossible, to represent people from vastly different background to yourself simply because you have little idea what things are important or what it is like in those different backgrounds. The government needs privately educated MPs to represent their part of society but it also needs others from all walks of life.
A factory worker from Scotland is no more capable of determining how policies will affect a private schoolboy from Eton's life any more then the boy from Eton is able to do the same for the factory worker. You can not lead all walks of life, we need a mix in parliament. At the moment it is massively skewed in one part of societies favour.

So you don't think George Galloway should represent people in Bradford or East London then?

And Caroline Lucas shouldn't represent Moulsecoomb?

 

[El Presidente]

I'm voting neither Tory nor Labour but you appear somewhat blinkered :

Schools - Labour hocked many of them into debt using PFI, the Tories have handed them over to private enterprise with academies and free schools
Police - Labour created the cheap, not proper police officers known as PCSOs, the Tories created the Police Commissioners ( otherwise known as politicising the police )
Hospitals - back to that old PFI thing from Labour ( and we can add in the disaster within NHS dentistry under Labour ), Tories organised the NHS, badly, and against their promises
Prison Service - prisons were 'sold off' under Labour, under the Tories the service was handed over to Capita
Ambulance - utterly impossible targets set by Labour, not sure the Tories have done anything with it so far
Fire Service - one of the longest and most hostile industrial actions with the fire service under Labour ( actually requiring the Army to step in ), ridiculous pension plans under the Tories

Using your theory, you should vote neither Tory nor Labour - but weirdly you're too blinkered to name Labour as a guilty party as well ?

Some fair comments there. All the parties have shown themselves to be more interested in preserving power for themselves rather than representing their constituents, and for that reason I'm going to give my support for a party that, although you may not agree with all of it's views, and some consider to be a bit behind the times and extreme, is at least true to it's beliefs.

#VoteISIS

 

[beorhthelm]

It is extremely difficult, possibly impossible, to represent people from vastly different background to yourself simply because you have little idea what things are important or what it is like in those different backgrounds.

the objective or representative democracy is to represent the constituency that you are elected from, to guide and direct policy. it is not to represent demographic groups. there are a number of demographics that are over-represented: men, trade unionists, graduates of PPE to name a few. there are many under-represented. while i see the point that, say being unemployed makes you much better able to understand how difficult that is, does it make you able to better direct policy? I'd say we need more engineers and scientists in parliament but what do they know about running a farm in the Highlands? those with special interests end up seeing everything through the prism of their interest, at the cost of everything else. cf. UKIP and Greens.

if we want to have a parliament reflective of the population, you want to have some sort of ballot with people appointed from each of the many many groups.

 

[Nibble]

This ought to be interesting. You'll leave if Labour win power and [MENTION=5707]Nibble[/MENTION] has said he'll leave if the Tories win power ..... one of you is clearly out of here .... unless one or both of you are lying ?

I'm not lying. If they remain in power I'm selling up and leaving. I'm going to within 5 years anyway so that'll just make it sooner.

 

[User removed 4]

Another reason for calling time on tax dodging parasistes.

Like the milliband family ?

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/07/04/Mail_on_Miliband.html

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...milibands-clever-little-tax-avoidance-scheme/

 

[User removed 4]

Hilarious ! You are Phil Collins and I claim my £5.

Isn't it time you got some new material ?

 

[vegster]

Isn't it time you got some new material ?

Thank you, Mr Angry.

 

[User removed 4]

Thank you, Mr Angry.

Not angry, just bored with tha same joke from you all the time.

 

[vegster]

Not angry, just bored with tha same joke from you all the time.

It's much better than just calling everyone who has a contrary view to yours a moron or similar. Put me on "ignore " then ? maybe don't bother replying ? how about not looking at my posts ? plenty of choices for you.