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[Politics] Why is Nigel Farage on Question Time tonight ?



Hugo Rune

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James O’Brien sends his kids to private schools.

Imho we should distinguish elite schools such as Eton and Ampleforth “Leave here and rule the world, you are all winners”. From thousands of nurturing independent schools helping kids overawed by the huge ‘penitentiaries’ that we survived.
I agree with the entirely. I was making a generalisation.
 




Weststander

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The BBC has left wing programmes, but the news & political programmes are biased verging on propaganda. its unsurprising when the government of the day put their own people on the board of directors.
Decent journalists like Jon Sopel, Emily Maitlis, and Dan Walker all left.
Just Victoria Derbyshire left but only on Newsnight when most people are in bed.

oh, for the Ludovic Kennedy type presenters who really questioned politicians of all parties, and didn’t let them spout their nonsense.

I’ve not been following all these BBC accusations on NSC.

Are people really saying BBC presenters and producers have a right wing leaning?
 


Thunder Bolt

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I’ve not been following all these BBC accusations on NSC.

Are people really saying BBC presenters and producers have a right wing leaning?
Yes, and not just on Nsc, and not even just recently. As I said, many programmes are varied, but news and current affairs are handled differently.
I emailed a complaint to the BBC in 2015, about a news item which was lying by omission.
I received a bland reply which didn’t even cover my complaint.

Gary Lineker, Chris Packham and David Attenborough infuriate the right wing viewers, and even Countryfile has upset some recently for daring to mention climate change.
 


ROSM

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I’ve not been following all these BBC accusations on NSC.

Are people really saying BBC presenters and producers have a right wing leaning?
What I think people are saying is that the news agenda at the bbc is now overseen by a former tory councillor and parliamentary candidate (tim davie) and former head of tory comms and tory pm comms, member of Tufton St think tanks and founding member of gb news (Robbie gibb) who acts as the arbiter on bbc impartiality
 


GJN1

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I can understand both arguments.

But it’s not just the tax aspect, people including here lazily lump all independent schooling and the private health sector as doing the devil’s work. Class war from the laptop … not for me.
Why is nobody asking why the private schools have to pass on the VAT in their fees? Maybe have a couple of extra kids per class? Don't build the new squash court?
 




Weststander

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Yes, and not just on Nsc, and not even just recently. As I said, many programmes are varied, but news and current affairs are handled differently.
I emailed a complaint to the BBC in 2015, about a news item which was lying by omission.
I received a bland reply which didn’t even cover my complaint.

Gary Lineker, Chris Packham and David Attenborough infuriate the right wing viewers, and even Countryfile has upset some recently for daring to mention climate change.

Of all the places, that even happened in reaction to BBC2's Ski Sunday this year. Climate change denying skiers, there's are a noisy rump of them, furious that Chemmy Alcott mentioned in a positive manner changes the industry could make.

Of all the places, because small ski villages are closing, lower to mid altitude slopes have had spring-like slush in January. Unprecedented.
 


KZNSeagull

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I will wait until the end of the election campaign until I accuse the BBC of bias. Next week they may have Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar, George Monbiot or any of the other non-mainstream voices that they have on Politics Live regularly. Maybe they will even have Galloway on? We'll see.
 


nicko31

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I’ve not been following all these BBC accusations on NSC.

Are people really saying BBC presenters and producers have a right wing leaning?
Sadly the Tories have comprimised the Beeb with the likes of Gibb and Davie infiltrating the organisation, not to mention cutting services to the bone and freezing the very modest licence fee

The exodus has been unprecedented, Marr, Mattias, Goodall, Sopel, Mair, many many others...
 






Weststander

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Sadly the Tories have comprimised the Beeb with the likes of Gibb and Davie infiltrating the organisation, not to mention cutting services to the bone and freezing the very modest licence fee

The exodus has been unprecedented, Marr, Mattias, Goodall, Sopel, Mair, many many others...

The cutting services bit annoys me eg local radio. The low hanging fruit.
 


Eeyore

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James O’Brien sends his kids to private schools.

Imho we should distinguish elite schools such as Eton and Ampleforth “Leave here and rule the world, you are all winners”. From thousands of nurturing independent schools helping kids overawed by the huge ‘penitentiaries’ that we survived. Neurodiversity and other SEN’s, we now know, is widespread. Kids get a chance from middle income parents giving up everything, or from burseries.

I know this from helping in the real world, (Not picking on you) not from a class war based on generalisations.

We need instead to think about how we can help kids who loath school gain from their years.
I completely understand why parents send then kids to private school. But I don't agree with it.

A really good listen is Alan Bennett, my favourite writer/speaker ever. No-one puts it like he does.



'My objection to private education is put simply thus: It's not fair'
 




Guinness Boy

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I completely understand why parents send then kids to private school. But I don't agree with it.

A really good listen is Alan Bennett, my favourite writer/speaker ever. No-one puts it like he does.



'My objection to private education is put simply thus: It's not fair'

Every whining private parent on QT last night was basically just saying 'don't make my bill go up' even though Wes Streeting pointed out that independent school fees rise by over 10% a year each year anyway.

Seems to me they just need less take away coffee and smashed avocado. If it gets really bad they can always get another job.

:moo:
 




Eeyore

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Every whining private parent on QT last night was basically just saying 'don't make my bill go up' even though Wes Streeting pointed out that independent school fees rise by over 10% a year each year anyway.

Seems to me they just need less take away coffee and smashed avocado. If it gets really bad they can always get another job.

:moo:
I remember an old boss of mine who wanted to send her kid private. She could have sent her to St Luke's, the most sought after primary school in country, but wouldn't have it. I never understood it. Paying thousands of pounds a year for what ? The kid would still have ended up at possibly the same university doing the same degree.

The kids at a local private school were sent out to do community outreach by one of the teachers who was a friend of mine. As part of that, a couple of them were sent to my parents house to sit with my mother who had Alzheimers one afternoon every fortnight. It was a good initiative. But it felt like something out of a Victorian practice of showing sympathy for the deserving poor. There were a couple of occasion when I was present in the house and the kids look bewildered by the whole process. I tried to engage with them but they just seemed so disconnected from my reality. One told me he wanted to be a dentist. I couldn't understand why his family needed to pay so much for his education when he could have gone through the usual route. Unfathomable.

Folk should listen to what Bennett says about it. Hardly a bitter narrator as he has an Oxford first and is probably the most celebrated playwright of our time.
 




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